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02-15-2005, 04:48 PM
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I was listening to ...AJFA today (where in the world are the cymbals in the mix??)
Anyways, I was listening to Lars and thinking, he's not really all that. I remember there being a really fast roll on one of the tunes (One, maybe?) and it sounded like he never studied rudiments. I mean, there's no rolls, hardly any flams, fancy stuff that drummers do. He's just fast. Big deal.
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02-15-2005, 04:53 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: montreal, qc, Canada | | | He's not amazing, but he's a solid drummer with some cool stuff once in a while. He sometimes gets too much accolade for his work, but I've seen much worse. |
02-15-2005, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by peteroberts I was listening to ...AJFA today (where in the world are the cymbals in the mix??)
Anyways, I was listening to Lars and thinking, he's not really all that. I remember there being a really fast roll on one of the tunes (One, maybe?) and it sounded like he never studied rudiments. I mean, there's no rolls, hardly any flams, fancy stuff that drummers do. He's just fast. Big deal.
What do you all think?? | Pretty decent independence, decent double bass, good time; an decent drummer overall.
He would pale in comparision to numerous other drumming greats though. Rich, Donati, Carey, and Bozzio all have his number and can do stuff he couldn't dream of doing. |
02-15-2005, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by abark000 He would pale in comparision to numerous other drumming greats though. Rich, Donati, Carey, and Bozzio all have his number and can do stuff he couldn't dream of doing. | Like sleeping on an enormous pile of money? 
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02-15-2005, 04:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA (finally!) | | I haven't really listened closely to the stuff they did after abandoning the click track...he still solid? |
02-15-2005, 05:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: London, UK | | | anyone else find his drumming on the Cunning Stunts DVD sloppy? |
02-15-2005, 05:18 PM
| | | | I heard he's prone to sloppiness and screwing up live. But remeber, that's only what I've heard, so take it with a grain of salt.
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02-15-2005, 05:23 PM
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02-15-2005, 05:35 PM
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02-15-2005, 05:43 PM
| | | I think Lars is a good drummer. 'Dyer's Eve' is a good example of some solid drumming.
About Danny Carey though, what are some examples of good Tool songs drumming-wise? I've heard a few of their songs, mostly from 'Lateralus', and his drumming never really jumped out at me. Maybe I am missing the subtleties in his playing?
Some drummers I like, aside from those mentioned are Charlie of Anthrax, Nick Menza, formerly of Megadeth, the drummer from Cryptopsy, and the drummer who played on Death's 'Symbolic' album (his name escapes me at the moment).
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02-15-2005, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Latimour Like sleeping on an enormous pile of money? | That is the funniest thing I have read all day.  |
02-15-2005, 05:50 PM
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02-15-2005, 06:12 PM
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02-15-2005, 06:13 PM
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02-15-2005, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by peteroberts because it's about DRUMMING maybe??? | Drumming=Music related=Miscellaneous
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02-15-2005, 06:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA (finally!) | | in this case I'm not so sure the drumming is music related! 
PS - how do you make a drummer's car go faster?
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02-15-2005, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by peteroberts in this case I'm not so sure the drumming is music related!
PS - how do you make a drummer's car go faster?
Take the pizza delivery sign off the top. | Q - How many bass players does it take to change a lightbulb?
A - One. Five. One. Five.
Anyway, back to Mr. Ulrich...I really don't have much of a problem with his drumming, but there are 2 things he does while preforming that make me wish the worst upon him...these are just pet peeves:
1) At some point, he always stands up (a no-no for drummers IMO) and plays for a sec, then points at the crowd...what the hell is that?
2) The "metal face"...you know the one, the look as though a pineapple is being shoved where the sun don't shine.
I've also heard many rumors of "ghost drummers" on several of their earlier albums (Master or Puppets, Ride the Lightning)...if it is true, thats really lame...
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02-15-2005, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BassGod
About Danny Carey though, what are some examples of good Tool songs drumming-wise? I've heard a few of their songs, mostly from 'Lateralus', and his drumming never really jumped out at me. Maybe I am missing the subtleties in his playing?
| Danny's playing does have quite a few subtleties, and they easily get lost in the mix with Tool thrashing in front of him. Part of the problem is Botriff's tendency towards muddy drum tones, as well as Danny not using his snare strand very often.
Listen to 46&2, Aenema, or Pu**** from Aenima or The Grudge, Schism, Ticks & Leeches or Lateralus from Lateralus. He's got some impressive rolls and fills in Undertow as well, but his beats are in general more simplistic, and I really don't listen to the album enough to recommend songs.
Oh Yeah, Lars.... To be frank, a pretty poor drummer, no sense of tempo or timing, horrible chops, recycled beats, bad facial expressions...
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02-15-2005, 11:34 PM
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02-16-2005, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LARUMBLE john bohnam period always in the pocket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Keith Moon *raises fists*
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Lars is an average drummer. Maybe below average considering all of the time he's been playing. As a person I don't like him too much either I find him cocky arrogant, and obnoxious. Same goes for James.
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