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Old 03-10-2008, 09:52 PM
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I have an urge to play keyboards, but would this hurt or help me as a muscision? learning a new instrument might give me new ideas but then again, thats time i could be playing bass, what are youre thoughts?
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:56 AM
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Learning any instrument is a great idea, if you want to grow as a musician. Some day, when I have the time and the money, I am going to take piano lessons.
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It definitely helps. Ideas you get on a keyboard can be applied to bass and vice versa
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Definitely helps.
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Old 03-11-2008, 07:29 AM
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May not help you as a muscision. But we musicians can learn from it.
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:50 AM
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Learning any other instrument will be a help to you. Learning keyboards would be the biggest help.

I was watching the Rufus Reid DVD yesterday (companion to his "Evolving Bassist") and he said that every good musician should be 'friendly' with the piano. By friendly he meant being able to use it as a tool to hear ideas and work with music, not be good enough to perform. I think he's right.
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Definitely a good thing.
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Not only will it help you with general music, it will also help you with the playing mechanics on a bass to work your hands the way you need to on a keyboard - if it is a real piano or at least a properly weighted keyboard. It will strengthen your pinky and ring fingers in ways that are hard to accomplish playing the electric bass, but in a very short time you will find that you can do more on the bass as far as intricate patterns. Playing the keyboard (even poorly) is one of the best ear and hand exercises you can perform.
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Good idea, or bad idea?

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I can't imagine how playing any instrument would hurt. Each has it's own unique voice, characteristics, approach, etc. that you'd eventually pick up on and that kind of fresh input would only make you better because it you'd have more ideas and experience to draw on. I always planned to learn keyboards after I got out of grad school but somehow never found the time over the last 15 years as life "happened". I wish I would have found a way at some point.

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good i read this thread ! my dad offered to buy me a yamaha keyboard and i was sorta not so sure about "should i go for it"
but i had beem a lot more confident after reading and watching a couple of learn to play keyboards stuff and ofcourse talking to my teacher about it
but this seals the deal i am getting the keyboard soon as dad hands me the money \m/

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I have an urge to play keyboards, but would this hurt or help me as a muscision? learning a new instrument might give me new ideas but then again, thats time i could be playing bass, what are youre thoughts?
as i said above i was in the same fix but i am going for it

ps: maybe if you are too planning to learn to play it well then maybe we both can discuss the progress every few weeks or something what do you say?
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:22 AM
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If you're going to learn another instrument, I would hazard to say that you can learn the most about music in general from keyboard/piano. It will definitely help your bass playing in general as you learn more about theory, chords, composition, etc.

BEWARE, though - the keyboard world has a dark side of the force, and that's gear with lots of knobs. Say what you want about guitar players and bass players, keyboard players are WAY worse when it comes to obessessing over gear. Check out the Harmony-Central forums sometime and see what I mean. No one over there talks about _playing_ keyboards, they just talk about keyboards. Don't get sucked into the gear!

I would recommend the piano forums at Piano World, though. Less gear talk, more playing talk.
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I was watching the Rufus Reid DVD yesterday (companion to his "Evolving Bassist") and he said that every good musician should be 'friendly' with the piano. By friendly he meant being able to use it as a tool to hear ideas and work with music, not be good enough to perform. I think he's right.
Marcus Miller expressed similar ideas at a clinic I saw him at in Maryland.

Learning the keyboard, at least having basic survival skills, i.e. understanding basic chord phrasing and inversions, being able to figure out a 7th, 9th, etc. chord, is an invaluable tool. My keyboard has sat unplayed for so long though.
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im going through the same dilemma right now actually.

why keys and not just piano?
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Pianos are much more expensive, aren't they...
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Pianos are much more expensive, aren't they...
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it's not a good idea. It's a PHENOMENAL idea.
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Learning drums and guitar have helped me in writing basslines.

Playing the piano is a great way to develop a good ear and dexterity.

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