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05-15-2004, 05:25 AM
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I would have thought that this would have been discussed around here many times before, but it seems like it hasn't. I don't have much of an opinion on it, but I think it's quite interesting. http://www2.memlane.com/jmilner/stairwaybackwards.htm
I had heard of this before. Yet, this is the first time I actually listened to the song backwards myself. After doing so on that website I tried it myself with the original CD and it's the same. What makes this interesting is that, in my opinion, it is pretty clear to hear. I am not even a native english speaker, but I can make the words out quite easily. That weakens the argument that "you hear just what you want to hear". |
05-15-2004, 09:51 AM
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05-15-2004, 10:03 AM
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It's hard enough to write lyrics, without having to try to think about putting in a backwards satanic message in there as well. The only word that I can think of that has an evil connotation when it's played backwards is "Bob". |
05-15-2004, 10:07 AM
| | Notes we play > Gear we play them on | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Wisconsin | | | I was under the impression that Satan had a pretty firm grip on forward rock'n'roll. If he's trying to edge in the backwards way, that's just greedy. |
05-15-2004, 11:33 AM
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05-15-2004, 11:55 AM
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And I smell BS. I've heard other portions of songs (a different part of Stairway, Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust") and backwards vocals are never that intelligible. I think the backwards version is doctored.
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05-15-2004, 12:27 PM
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05-15-2004, 08:19 PM
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05-15-2004, 09:42 PM
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05-15-2004, 09:47 PM
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05-15-2004, 11:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Northern CA | | | I'm almost 100% sure it's not doctored - when I was in high school my friend took a cassette of it apart, reversed the reels, and we listened to it, and it sounded like that. I would also play my Beatles albums backwards, to hear the "Paul is dead - miss him miss him miss him" (I think it's in "I'm Only Sleeping"?)
Didn't Jimmy Page buy Aleister Crowley's house at one point? After that various bad things started happening to the band.
"Don't meddle with things you don't understand" - can anyone identify this one? |
05-16-2004, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hieronymous
"Don't meddle with things you don't understand" - can anyone identify this one?
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05-16-2004, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike N Iron Maiden. | heehee!!! that gives me piece of mind that someone knew 
(sorry - bad joke) |
05-16-2004, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike N Iron Maiden. | Still Life? |
05-16-2004, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Brendan And I smell BS. I've heard other portions of songs (a different part of Stairway, Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust") and backwards vocals are never that intelligible. I think the backwards version is doctored. | It's not. As I've said above, I have tried it out. |
05-16-2004, 06:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Isle of Lucy | | | How exactly do you get to play a track backwards? Or were they just using a record player mic'd up to the computer...?
Anyway, I listen to Coast to Coast AM every now and again, a few years back they had a weblink to some "theorist's" website that played high profile soundbites forward and backward. I don't remember the name, nor the site, but this "theorist" figured one would receive a subliminal, backwards message (if one were lying), you'd subconsciously hear the backwards message that would be the truth. It's gotta be BS, but it was amusing for a few minutes.
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05-17-2004, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by canopener How exactly do you get to play a track backwards? Or were they just using a record player mic'd up to the computer...? | You can do that in almost any sound editing application, shareware or not. There is always a plug-in or command to reverse the audio. |
05-17-2004, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by hieronymous
Didn't Jimmy Page buy Aleister Crowley's house at one point? After that various bad things started happening to the band.
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| The first part is true - but after he bought it, Led Zep had huge million-selling albums, played to sold-out tours all across the world and Page is still going and earning money, many years after contemporaries have died or burned-out - I think he knew exactly what he was doing!! 
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05-17-2004, 09:43 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | i knew a guy who played stairway backwards on his guitar, and he learned to sing "neaveh ot yawriats a gniyub sehs dna"
sounded like crap, but it was funny. |
05-17-2004, 09:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: West-Vlaanderen, Belgium | | I got a whole site of this stuff with lots of other bands, hang on I'll see if I can find it.
Got it! http://www.geocities.com/fasulobros/...skingPage.html
Unfortunately, some of the links don't work. Bad webmaster...or maybe the devil's doing  
edit: for the record, i think it's all a bunch of bs
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