Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Miscellaneous [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Miscellaneous [BG] Music-related discussion, not specific to the bass or any other forum


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 07-25-2011, 03:54 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto
legalities podcast promoting music?

Sign in to disble this ad
I wanted to start a podcast promoting mostly indie bands but some well known bands as well. Now, apparently I have to license the music by paying a fee to the respective parties however 1) I can't afford to pay these fees just to run a lil ol' podcast 2) I am giving these bands and their music exposure and publicity and potentially making them money anyways. The podcast is non profit for me, basically doing it for fun.

Anyone know about what I can and can't do as far as podcasting? I figured if I was freely promoting bands/music that I would avoid licensing issues, but perhaps not.
__________________
"All Basses Are Belong To Us."
  #2  
Old 07-26-2011, 12:50 AM
colcifer's Avatar
Esteemed Nitpicker
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: A Galaxy Far, Far Away
Supporting Member
Indie bands may own all of the rights to their music in which case you just need to contact them for permission. If there are record and publishing companies involved, it'll be worse than going to the dmv. Whatever you do, do it cautiously.
  #3  
Old 07-26-2011, 07:46 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Avon, IN
Be very careful, do a lot a research and be even more careful. Copyright infringement can get very expensive, very quickly.
__________________
G&L Club Member #213, TBC AP500M, Mediocre Bass Player Club #455, U.S. Peavey Club Member #148
  #4  
Old 07-26-2011, 10:00 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto
Here in Canada I gotta deal with SOCAN. I sent them an email inquiry. I believe most of my podcast would fall under what is called in copyright law here in Canada " Fair Dealing." The podcast would be non interactive (listeners cannot choose and play a specific song) and on a whole the podcast can be considered as being criticism, review and/or news reporting. As well there will be no advertisements during the broadcast.
__________________
"All Basses Are Belong To Us."
  #5  
Old 07-26-2011, 11:33 AM
colcifer's Avatar
Esteemed Nitpicker
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: A Galaxy Far, Far Away
Supporting Member
Didn't think to take your location into account; international IP law sounds fun...
  #6  
Old 07-26-2011, 12:25 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ventura, California
Quote:
Originally Posted by colcifer View Post
Indie bands may own all of the rights to their music in which case you just need to contact them for permission. If there are record and publishing companies involved, it'll be worse than going to the dmv. Whatever you do, do it cautiously.
My understanding (as a non-lawyer, non-Canadian person) is that Canada's laws parallel the US laws.

As such, like Colcifer said, get their permission. Almost across the board, they'll be OK with it - the smaller the band, the more likely they'll both be willing to let you use the music and own both the performance and mechanical royalties (who wrote the song and who paid the money to make the recording). The smaller the band, the more likely it'll be to clear the song.

That said, most musicians don't make money off their music anymore, and are pretty open about people letting them use it. Just ask, and you'll probably receive.

Also, if you use a bigger named band, you'll probably have to pay royalties.... Unless your podcast provides critiques of the music. If you talk over it, stop it occassionally to say "man, that rhythm section is tight," or "I don't think they needed a string section here," then you are not infringing on the copyright as long as you don't play the song uninterrupted.

Also, if your podcast gets sued by a greedy, big music company, it could be GREAT PR for you as the struggling underdog!
  #7  
Old 07-26-2011, 04:46 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto
So let's say the program was about a certain popular make of guitar amplifier and the people who played through one. At this point I'm giving background information/historical insight, in the podcast, as a sort of primer for upcoming broadcasts. So that leads me to a pivotal recording with that amp and I want to play the recorded song as an example. Now let's say the song was from a band like The Rolling Stones or ZZ Top or some other big name band. I don't really want to be paying huge fees for using a song or two, as part of my documentary, but at the same time I don't want to just skip over those recordings because they are pivotal to the show's primer. Somehow I don't think I would get permission from the The Rolling Stones or the record label in question to use their song freely, they might not even bother getting back to me. I did discover that I could just use a clip of 30 seconds or less. Which I might have to do for the primer/intro podcast for those old recordings by major bands.

I'm also looking into LoudCity for broadcasting the podcast and they handle royalties for you. Though the only way for listeners to get your podcast, it appears, is via the Loud City website.
__________________
"All Basses Are Belong To Us."
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:45 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.