Legality of Bootlegs

[OPBASSMAN1994]

So, I found a downloadable Rush show online, that can not be found on any "official" record. It is a bootleg from some obscure (probably out of business) record company. It is incredible. From the Hemispheres tour and includes:

the Cygnus X-1 Duology

La Villa Strangiato

Xanadu

Closer to the Heart

By-Tor and the Snow Dog

Circumstances

YYZ

and more....


Awesome sounding show, I just question the legality. Is it illegal? How big a deal? Could I go to prison for this, pay a fine, or get blacklisted by somebody, etc.? I am seriously considering downloading this, but I don't want to end up shelling out my Rickenbacker money or going to court for it....

[chicago_mike]

You have a better chance of Toonces being your next taxi driver.

Bootlegs have been around since the dawn of time. They were once called sheet music.

[jgroh]

Not sure of the technical legalities of it (cough* Lars * cough) but I would guess as long as you are not going to sell it you shouldnt have a problem.

[OPBASSMAN1994]

I wouldn't sell it. I'm not that stupid. Thanks guys. Once I get to my "wall-of-meat" computer (the old junky one that I use for risky stuff that might involve viruses or adware), I think I'll burn it to a CD, then put that on my iPod.

Now, what artwork to use? Exit Stage Left, All the World's a Stage, or Different Stages?

[TC424]

The hemispheres tour that includes YYZ? I think I would be suspect of that.

[OPBASSMAN1994]

Post-Hemispheres actually. I forgot to mention. It's after the fact. It is described as Hemispheres, but I know that it is most likely Late Permanent Waves or a compilation of several bootlegs from two different tours.

[OPBASSMAN1994]

I still want it. The Cygnus X-1 Duology would be well worth it. Xanadu too. Although, I have Xanadu. I'm looking at "Taurus Pedals from Hell" from the Permanent Waves tour, too.

[gttim]

There are tons of Rush bootlegs out there. I have a number of them. For that era "Black Forest" is a great one. I think you can safely download it without any trouble.

You can probably check out a review of that bootleg at:

rushtrader.com

[OtterOnBass]

Copyright is the right to make a copy. The original authors alone have that right until they sell it or the legal time frame has expired. Recording, ripping, downloading and burning are all ways to make copies.

[TC2112]

Rush has no problem with fans trading shows -
just don't sell them -
I have thousands of audio and DVD boots. it's a great community of fans and friends.

here is a great resource to see what is available and the quality of each - http://www.digitalrushexperience.com/

[M0ses]

Personally, I don't think it's a good idea to talk about it publicly on the internet either way.

[Gizmot]

I personally avoid bootlegs because I don't agree that people are entitled to someone else's performance without paying. Do you want to play for free?

[eSmith]

Come to Canada and download it.. Our government implemented a tax on all recordable media (Blank anythig) telling us ut was required to compensate the artists.....

So, all copyright infringment cases for Canadians can be deflected to our government as by collecting the tax they assume Fiduciary responsibilities.

So, download it, then email Rush and tell them to pick up some compensation from the Canadian Gov who already collected it in there name.

-eSmith.

[Deluge Of Sound]

There's no problem with bootlegs, as long as they aren't using officially released material.

[OPBASSMAN1994]

Originally Posted by TC2112

Rush has no problem with fans trading shows -
just don't sell them -
I have thousands of audio and DVD boots. it's a great community of fans and friends.

here is a great resource to see what is available and the quality of each - http://www.digitalrushexperience.com/

Looked. Nothing actually downloadable. This one looked safe, and I didn't get any red flags, but, still, sites like that, however official, give me the shakes. I've gotten too many viruses to trust any website that is not "official". I'm going to go to my W.O.M. computer when I do download. I just want to know, what sites actually offer downloadable content?

[Deluge Of Sound]

There's a bunch of them.

Dimeadozen, the recently deceased Tapecity, The Trader's Den...

You've got a google, use it!

[OPBASSMAN1994]

Will the mods get on to us for talking about things that could be construed as semi-illegal? I can't afford to lose too many more points.

[Deluge Of Sound]

There's nothing illegal about bootlegged live shows if you're not selling them, it doesn't contain copyrighted performances, and the band is cool with it.

[JBuckley]

No link, no bootleg!


(I'd be happy to take that link via PM if you don't want to post it)