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mcblahflooper94 01-23-2013 06:44 PM

Looking for Influences please? :)
 
I've really been interested in like Art/ psychedelic/prog bands lately. Some of the bands I've been enjoying a lot lately are: Muse, Radiohead, The Doors, Rush, Yes, and Pink Floyd. I've been trying to write those kind of songs lately, but I guess I'm still too focused on being a groovy/funkish bass player like JPJ (which is not a prog/psychedelic thing, IMO) that I'm having trouble writing non blues/funk influenced music. So I guess I'm asking for some more bands to add to my repertoire in hope of influencing my writing. As always, thanks very much for reading, and thoughts are very appreciated :)

Makatak 01-23-2013 06:46 PM

It Bites

Casting Thunder 01-23-2013 06:55 PM

Jethro Tull.

mellowgerman 01-23-2013 06:59 PM

Fantastic band (IMO the best band in the history of man)... but let's just say the link takes you to this specific moment in the performance for a reason ;)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHmiFHzPqbM#t=1m43s

Another important one:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=88LlMO_dPRQ

And finally:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEtd_UC21Bk

RS66LB 01-23-2013 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mcblahflooper94 (Post 13767049)
I've really been interested in like Art/ psychedelic/prog bands lately. Some of the bands I've been enjoying a lot lately are: Muse, Radiohead, The Doors, Rush, Yes, and Pink Floyd. I've been trying to write those kind of songs lately, but I guess I'm still too focused on being a groovy/funkish bass player like JPJ (which is not a prog/psychedelic thing, IMO) that I'm having trouble writing non blues/funk influenced music. So I guess I'm asking for some more bands to add to my repertoire in hope of influencing my writing. As always, thanks very much for reading, and thoughts are very appreciated :)

Try giving a few seconds to the 1970 recording of "Jack the stripper", this is actually an intro to another song called "Faries wear boots", it's a slow yet heavy song by Black Sabbath -it's got a bass line that virtually defines the term 'heavy', who knows -you may actually like it

oniman7 01-23-2013 08:34 PM

Great song here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g9Hs3rnd6s

You're also going to want to take a look at King Crimson, Porcupine Tree, Tool, Gentle Giant, and bands like that.

IMO, as much as blues is not my favorite genre, it's hard to escape the blues influence in art/prog/psychedelic rock

sarcastro83 01-23-2013 08:41 PM

There is a Canadian band called Black Mountain... give them a shot. I like their record "In The Future" in particular.

AltGrendel 01-23-2013 08:43 PM

Discipline by King Crimson

mellowgerman 01-23-2013 09:32 PM

Sorry to keep adding to the list but for something a little more contemporary than the links I posted above, check out Sleepy Sun. They're a really good psychedelic group from California. Their 2010 album "Fever" is pretty fantastic.

Figjam 01-23-2013 10:32 PM

Well since we are talking about them in another thread, The Mars Volta.

oniman7 01-24-2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Figjam (Post 13767868)
Well since we are talking about them in another thread, The Mars Volta.

I heard they just broke up.

mcblahflooper94 01-24-2013 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by oniman7 (Post 13767483)
Great song here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g9Hs3rnd6s

You're also going to want to take a look at King Crimson, Porcupine Tree, Tool, Gentle Giant, and bands like that.

IMO, as much as blues is not my favorite genre, it's hard to escape the blues influence in art/prog/psychedelic rock

I LOVE blues/funk, and that's the problem. I'm having trouble having that lot reflect in my writing. I'm just trying to surround myself around the genre I'm going to be writing in so I can write good psychedelic/prog/art songs.

Nashrakh 01-24-2013 04:42 AM

'The Eclectic Measure' by Hypnos 69. I get eargasms every time I listen to it - the songwriting brings me to tears in a good way, and them bass lines...

mcblahflooper94 01-24-2013 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mellowgerman (Post 13767092)
Fantastic band (IMO the best band in the history of man)... but let's just say the link takes you to this specific moment in the performance for a reason ;)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHmiFHzPqbM#t=1m43s

Another important one:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=88LlMO_dPRQ

And finally:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEtd_UC21Bk

Great stuff, thanks. I really like that vibrato the guitarist uses in country joe and the fish. Is that some sort of vibrato pedal, or is he bending that?

Turxile 01-24-2013 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mcblahflooper94 (Post 13768390)
I LOVE blues/funk, and that's the problem. I'm having trouble having that lot reflect in my writing. I'm just trying to surround myself around the genre I'm going to be writing in so I can write good psychedelic/prog/art songs.

Surrounding yourself in the music is a good idea. You play what you hear in your head, we all do, and that could take a long time to change.
My advice is that in addition to listening, play all the songs by the bands you want to write/play like. Analyse the song forms, chord progressions, melodies, and the arrangements.

JimK 01-24-2013 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mcblahflooper94 (Post 13767049)
I've really been interested in like Art/ psychedelic/prog bands lately...but I guess I'm still too focused on being a groovy/funkish bass player like JPJ (which is not a prog/psychedelic thing, IMO) that I'm having trouble writing non blues/funk influenced music.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcblahflooper94 (Post 13768390)
I LOVE blues/funk, and that's the problem. I'm having trouble having that lot reflect in my writing.

There is also something called "Psychedelic Funk"...

SunnBass 01-24-2013 07:09 AM

CAN

http://youtu.be/2dZbAFmnRVA

Amon Duul II

http://youtu.be/0CeGHhobHww

mcblahflooper94 01-24-2013 08:03 AM

Cool stuff guys, I'll make sure to listen to all of it. So far, I've got:
King Crimson
Jefferson Airplane
Jethro Tull
It Bites
Country Joe and the Fish
Porcupine Tree
Tool
Gentle Giant
Black Mountain
Mars Volta
Can
Amon Duul II
Hypnos 69

Anyone know some modern influences for bands like Muse & Radiohead too? I've dived into Pixies & Sonic Youth, I like Pixies a lot, Sonic Youth is really hard for me to like, though. I've looked up Muse's influences and honestly I can't find their prog/space influence. I know they get their "bombastic" influence from Queen, but I'm looking for their influences like their song Forced In (a less common number off their REAL third album, Hullabaloo Soundtrack) or the slow part of Space Dementia or Citizen Erased. Thanks so much for helping me find some new cool music, too.

mellowgerman 01-24-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mcblahflooper94 (Post 13768402)
Great stuff, thanks. I really like that vibrato the guitarist uses in country joe and the fish. Is that some sort of vibrato pedal, or is he bending that?

That's Mr. Barry Melton. Easily my favorite lead guitarist. In my mind, he defines the psychedelic guitarist. The vibrato comes from his intense use of both his fretting hand and the Bigsby on his Gibson SG.

fretting hand vibrato can be seen here around the 2min52sec mark:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk3-elEqUZs

and here's another all around mind boggling one from them
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPwmluotHLw

robotriot 01-24-2013 08:26 AM

for some recent stuff check out tame impala, UMO, pond


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