Made In USA

[ksandvik]

I came to the realization that the few ways we could really help the US economy and especially help create lost jobs is just to look a little bit more on the labels of stuff we purchase and try to purchase Made in USA products. Yes, they are more expensive but it's cheaper long run than to turn this economy into a B-class country living on welfare.

Kind of happy I ordered a MIA Fender today.

[baileyboy]

Originally Posted by ksandvik

I came to the realization that the few ways we could really help the US economy and especially help create lost jobs is just to look a little bit more on the labels of stuff we purchase and try to purchase Made in USA products. Yes, they are more expensive but it's cheaper long run than to turn this economy into a B-class country living on welfare.

Kind of happy I ordered a MIA Fender today.

+1 We need more like you.

[MatticusMania]

Do you know how long it would take to go Christmas Shopping if I did that!?

[Silaxian]

Our economic woes have a lot more to do with our financial structures than they do with the nature of our economic base. I am going to buy the best product (which is a completely subjective decision) for the money that I can afford. Where it is made isn't something I think about much. Besides, I'll bet even money that your MIA Fender has some components in it that weren't made in the USA. Assembled in the USA perhaps would be the better and more truthful phrase.

[ksandvik]

Originally Posted by Silaxian

Our economic woes have a lot more to do with our financial structures than they do with the nature of our economic base. I am going to buy the best product (which is a completely subjective decision) for the money that I can afford. Where it is made isn't something I think about much. Besides, I'll bet even money that your MIA Fender has some components in it that weren't made in the USA. Assembled in the USA perhaps would be the better and more truthful phrase.

It is true that to get a 100% made in USA product you have a hard time finding one as parts are from all over the world. Even some of the assembly happens here and there. However, there are some rules about Made in USA labels and if those are met, then it's an American product. Means someone is hired to do the work. Means helping this economy.

i agree that the banking scandal earlier got us into this mess, crazy loans and so forth. However, the current problem is the high unemployment rate, not banking issues. Every small thing helps here.

[Jinro]

"Made in America" doesn't mean it's of the best quality, and there are also many products that aren't even produced at all in America, so you don't have a choice either way with those.

[fourstringdrums]

Originally Posted by Jinro

"Made in America" doesn't mean it's of the best quality, and there are also many products that aren't even produced at all in America, so you don't have a choice either way with those.

+1 OR America means obnoxiously expensive. I like Gretsch, specifically the drums, but the guitars as well, but I hate that I have to pay 3-4k for them.

[leegreenman]

Unfortunately this is not a realistic strategy for many of us.

[Waterpilot]

Originally Posted by Jinro

"Made in America" doesn't mean it's of the best quality, and there are also many products that aren't even produced at all in America, so you don't have a choice either way with those.

I don't think anyone was arguing that made in the USA equates to being better. Just that's it's at least assembled by workers in the USA which can help with jobs. Some things can't be helped, but some things can...

[Marty Forrer]

I believe that the legal definition of Made In USA is that it contains not less than 40% local content.

[VanillaThundah]

Originally Posted by Silaxian

Our economic woes have a lot more to do with our financial structures than they do with the nature of our economic base.

True that...buying an American product isn't going to turn our work ethic, saving habits, and government's role in our economy into what they need to be.

[Staccato]

Many cos. that have a U.S. distribution address on the package-would like for you to think that it's not imported.

You might find this interesting...
"US law asks the original country of the production to be visibly stated on the product, or on the product's container if it is enclosed. Because of the later, in a lot of cases, the mark of the country of origin on the product itself is not shown.

Yes, all China made product is supposed to bear the "made in China" label but be aware that it varies with the amount of North American content added.

Also be aware that there are many counterfeit products made in China that bear North American labeling."

[Thor]

I like Chicago Beef dogs.

[Jinro]

I don't think anyone was arguing that made in the USA equates to being better.

I buy products based on their quality, not where they were made; although where they're made does influence quality. If an American product is of less quality than, say a Japanese product, where's the incentive to buy the American product? There isn't. Unless the quality is better, people won't buy American, thus making the "buy American" slogan pointless.

[Turock]

Americans want cheap, disposable stuff. Walmart didn't become what it is by selling quality. They sell cheap, disposable stuff that you throw away when it breaks, and America loves it.

[robbotbass]

I have a MIA jazz bass and a MIM PJ a MIM EB Bongo and a made in china acoustic bass.

[bassplayer8953]

Originally Posted by fourstringdrums

+1 OR America means obnoxiously expensive. I like Gretsch, specifically the drums, but the guitars as well, but I hate that I have to pay 3-4k for them.

Gretsch are made in Japan. The high-line Gretschs anyway, the cheaper models are Chinese, like everything else.

[bassplayer8953]

Originally Posted by ksandvik

It is true that to get a 100% made in USA product you have a hard time finding one as parts are from all over the world. Even some of the assembly happens here and there. However, there are some rules about Made in USA labels and if those are met, then it's an American product. Means someone is hired to do the work. Means helping this economy.

Made in USA means more than assembled in the US. Parts content (costs) must be 75% +.

Made in USA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i agree that the banking scandal earlier got us into this mess, crazy loans and so forth. However, the current problem is the high unemployment rate, not banking issues. Every small thing helps here.

"Outsourcing" has been the scourge of US employment. And yes, this means your MIM, MIJ, MIK, Indonesian, Chinese, or European instrument. And mine...

Anything any of us can do to buy MIA helps. No I don't advocate buying inferior products, just because they're MIA. But that's hardly the case anymore. Most MIA is high-line, both in quality & cost. And, as others have pointed out, some products are simply not available MIA, because all manufactureres associated with that product have shut down their US operations. Doesn't change the fact that we should do what we can, when we can...JMO...

[bassplayer8953]

Originally Posted by Jinro

I buy products based on their quality, not where they were made; although where they're made does influence quality. If an American product is of less quality than, say a Japanese product, where's the incentive to buy the American product? There isn't. Unless the quality is better, people won't buy American, thus making the "buy American" slogan pointless.

Just because the origin doesn't matter to you doesn't make it pointless. Many believe that the jobs they save might be their own, and the list of those believing this is growing..fortunately. People who disregard where a product is made have nothing to say when their own job disappears...outsourcing affects everybody.

[Jinro]

People who disregard where a product is made have nothing to say when their own job disappears...outsourcing affects everybody.

I haven't seen pilots, teachers, or translators being outsourced. It doesn't effect all jobs. Many jobs yes, but not all.