The map of heavy metal

[Mr wiggl3s]

This is how i see it. I know the Nu/Core is wrong (in that they're grouped together) and i can/will fix it as soon as i get more info on it. Other than that, i think this is spot on (click to make bigger).

[bolophonic]

Cool, dude.

[somegeezer]

there's a lot more than the Nu-Metal/Core that seem wrong. It's pretty accurate though and I'm sure you'll update it more each time you revise it.

[Mr wiggl3s]

Originally Posted by somegeezer

there's a lot more than the Nu-Metal/Core that seem wrong. It's pretty accurate though and I'm sure you'll update it more each time you revise it.

What'd you have in mind? I know death should be a branch off of thrash, but i think it's a genre all it's on now so i kept it separate.

[dehgrinder]

but you're missing grindcore, and crust punk =0

[Mr wiggl3s]

Originally Posted by dehgrinder

but you're missing grindcore, and crust punk =0

i had grindcore on an earlier version but i decided to take it off. idk why

crust punk isn't on the spectrum lol

[dj150888]

Who cares?! Why not just listen to it instead of wasting time on such pointless things? :S

[HaMMerHeD]

I do wonder where the likes of Meshuggah would fit into that little map. Technical? Thrash? Crossover thrash?

I see that Encyclopaedia Metallum describes them as "technical post-thrash"...whatever that means.

[The Last Rebel]

Originally Posted by HaMMerHeD

I do wonder where the likes of Meshuggah would fit into that little map. Technical? Thrash? Crossover thrash?

I see that Encyclopaedia Metallum describes them as "technical post-thrash"...whatever that means.

I'd call them technical death metal, but a lot of metal fans love giving every band its own genre.

Definately not crossover though, that's stuff like DRI or early Suicidal Tendencies.

And I have to offer one criticism. You've got technical and symphonic going into the first wave of black metal. Bands like Venom were far more informed by hardcore punk and thrash. Hell, the guys in Venom could barely play their instruments on Welcome To Hell and that's one of the most important black metal albums ever made. The second wave with bands like Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum, and Immortal was even less informed by anything technical or symphonic. Hell, Darkthrone's albums were a reaction against anything technical or polished. That's my only really big gripe though, other than that very nice job.

[fenderhutz]

I like how rock get's a little dot on the map, no one said this was to scale right? Aren't you forgetting pirate metal?

[AcidFripp]

Originally Posted by dehgrinder

but you're missing grindcore, and crust punk =0

Son, grindcore and crust are both subgenres of punk, not of metal. They're both direct descendant genres of Punk (through Hardcore Punk).

[Peepaleep]

Brutal Death? Funeral Doom? Wow. Nothing wrong with it, just "wow."

[greenboy]

where's the crapcore. It should be next to corncore and applecore, when there's been no grindcore.

[39-Bassist]

Well you go from rock to metal, but there actually was hard rock 1st then metal.....and not sure if you want to count Christian metal....aka Stryper, Whitecross,,,etc. Just some other suggestions since you have Black metal and all...

[bassybill]

Is it my imagination, or are people who are into metal generally way more obsessed with all this genre and sub-genre classification stuff than is usually normal? If so, why? Genuine questions.

[fenderhutz]

Originally Posted by bassybill

Is it my imagination, or are people who are into metal generally way more obsessed with all this genre and sub-genre classification stuff than is usually normal? If so, why? Genuine questions.

Dear Mr. Moderator, Metal isn't about music. It's about image and what part of the caste system you fit into. These types spend so much time worrying about what they actually are they forget about the most important part, the music.

Just look up any youtube video of a metal band and read the comments. People arguing and bickering over what Metal is. Over and over.

If it's brash (hopefully not, just making an observation) feel free to delete, but you asked.

[bassybill]

Back when I got into Sabbath and Judas Priest, it all seemed a lot more straightforward than this. Healthier, too.

Originally Posted by fenderhutz

Just look up any youtube video of a metal band and read the comments. People arguing and bickering over what Metal is. Over and over.

I guess that's sort of my point.

[fenderhutz]

I was into some really heavy stuff as well, but as I got older I got less angry.

[The Last Rebel]

Originally Posted by fenderhutz

Dear Mr. Moderator, Metal isn't about music. It's about image and what part of the caste system you fit into. These types spend so much time worrying about what they actually are they forget about the most important part, the music.

Just look up any youtube video of a metal band and read the comments. People arguing and bickering over what Metal is. Over and over.

If it's brash feel free to delete, but you asked.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you come off a bit arrogant. YouTube isn't exactly the place to go to find intelligent commentary, you do realize this right? Normal, levelheaded people don't comment on YouTube, or at least they intentionally troll and make the stupidest comments possible.

Here's the thing, I've written long diatribes on the genreization of metal, but I'm going to keep this short. Some people do care way too much about genre, some to the point where they won't expand outside of a very small area. Most metalheads aren't like that though, most use genres as a way to help find new music. It's a good way for bands to find an audience too if you ask me. Hell, I've found tons of bands based on genre descriptions alone. And here's the great thing about metal and metal heads: metal isn't any one thing. You can't group it under some big umbrella or make sweeping generalizations about it.

[greenboy]

Originally Posted by The Last Rebel

You can't group it under some big umbrella or make sweeping generalizations about it.

(voice in crowd): I can.







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