MPAA

kodiakblair · #1 06-14-2007, 05:59 PM

I've just been to bassmasta.net.

Don't bother, the MPAA are using their threats of legal action to stop Tabs!

What's happenin with this world.Everyday i'm finding more ways my life is being restricted.Lost royalties from sheet music,come on who are they trying to kid.What's next company lawyers suing you because you wore a berry like Jaco or a padlock and chan like Sid.

I know i'm an old punk but i can't believe the way things are,christ you can't smoke on stage in Scotland now and you can't even protest about it,no Freedom of Speech in th UK.

Is Internet Tab " Killing Music " ?

Cheers Dave

middy · #2 06-15-2007, 12:35 PM

Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's bad enough they barrage us with lowest-common-denominator pop garbage. Now they're trying to stop people from easily learning other people's music? What's next? Will they make it a crime to figure out songs by ear?

Greedy pigs is all they are.

bassmonkeee · #3 06-15-2007, 12:52 PM

What the heck does the Motion Picture Association of America have to do with tabs?

Sheesh...If you're going to rail against the system, at least make sure you have the right system...

JanusZarate · #4 06-15-2007, 01:00 PM

I think he means RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America).

The MPAA has nothing to do with it!

Jeramaya · #5 06-15-2007, 01:56 PM

Yeah, but **** the MPAA too, while we're at it.

Subculture13 · #6 06-15-2007, 02:07 PM

I read an article not long ago where some members of Van Halen, along with Jimmy Page and a few other notables sued a cover band for copyright infringement because they weren't paying royalties to them to play their songs.

moogboy · #7 06-15-2007, 02:21 PM

quit whining and use this for your tabs: http://web.archive.org/collections/web.html just type in the url, and search for tabs.

JanusZarate · #8 06-15-2007, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeramaya

Yeah, but **** the MPAA too, while we're at it.

At least Valenti's gone.

No, not the good one - the bad one!

middy · #9 06-15-2007, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticBoo

I think he means RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America).

The MPAA has nothing to do with it!

LOL

DocBop · #10 06-16-2007, 12:13 AM

Why is it people who would never walk into a store and steal a CD, DVD, or software think its their right to steal it off the net or trade with friends. That even buying a song for 99 cents is too high a price to pay for the artists they supposed love. Those artists have bills to pay too.

Have you noticed the cost of CD and DVD over the year seem to increase along with the increase in people downloading. Funny how that works.

Just some observations. Yes, I've heard every justification you will try to make, you don't need to do it again because I won't reply. As I said just making some observations.

middy · #11 06-16-2007, 12:14 PM

What's that got to do with tabs and transcriptions, DocBop?

kodiakblair · #12 06-17-2007, 06:49 AM

Yeah DocBop

funny how the costs of CDs,DVDs and the equipment to burn disks just gets cheaper and the price of albums keeps rising.

But this was about Tabs on the net and sharing knowledge.I take it we've never to teach anyone a song unless we both buy the sheet music.Oh and falling disk sales are all to do with downloads not kids fed-up buying albums for 1 song,remember when you needed at least 2 singles on an album.

cheers dave

Crazyeelboy · #13 06-17-2007, 07:20 AM

The songwriters (or the organizations that work for them) have every right to demand payment for the works they have created, including recordings and written renditions like sheet music and tabs. Just because people have become accustomed to being able to download music and tabs without paying for it does not mean that it is right to do it.

That said (and I did tell this to Jack Valenti personally), the music and film industries have done a horrible job in dealing with new technology. Instead of using apparently random lawsuits, they have to engage the the problem with creative solutions.

Tabs are a perfect example. If the industry wants to make money from selling tabs, then they should open up licensed sites offering tabs at competitive prices. As of today, from what I can see (and I am not a big tab user), official tabs don't seem to be readily available (although Musicnotes seems to be starting up a site for such tabs), so I'd say that unless they are going to actually offer official tabs, they should not stop others from making their own tabs available. It is not like they are losing any money if they are not actually selling the tabs themselves.

machine gewehr · #14 06-17-2007, 08:02 AM

I totally respect the work of atrists,programmers etc. as myself being a programmer candidate.They are so right on protecting their rights,do you know how many mindblowing hours they spend for your 3$ Windows copy?

But it wasn't illegal to copy the cassettes 10 years ago,and banning tabs is just stupid.Whats next,they break into your house:"You'r under arrest for playing teh bassline for Enter Sandman without proper authorization!"Sheeesh give me a break!

Lower-Than-Low · #15 06-17-2007, 03:10 PM

Most of the bands I listen to dont even release music books, and my ear isnt quite good enough to learn the songs by ear, so the whole getting rid of tabs thing really ticks me off.

tplyons · #16 06-17-2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machine gewehr

I totally respect the work of atrists,programmers etc. as myself being a programmer candidate.They are so right on protecting their rights,do you know how many mindblowing hours they spend for your 3$ Windows copy?

But it wasn't illegal to copy the cassettes 10 years ago,and banning tabs is just stupid.Whats next,they break into your house:"You'r under arrest for playing teh bassline for Enter Sandman without proper authorization!"Sheeesh give me a break!

Copied cassettes were illegal, however it was less rampant and less of a problem. Cassette trades were done in person and were limited to a more localized distribution. With anything in it's digital form, something can be taken anywhere in the world within seconds and copied limitlessly, therefore it is a bigger problem which is being pursued now. It's always been illegal, always will be, but for the first time, it's a problem that needs to be addressed.

My opinion of tabs as well as other transcriptions is that it's one person's interpretation of a song. If it's copied out of an official transcription book, that's copying. If it's transcribed by ear, it's an interpretation.

The problem with tabs is that it's difficult to draw the line between copied tabs and interpreted tabs, and for the sake of the artists and the recording organizations, it's easier to strive to outlaw ALL forms of tabs, which I believe is incorrect.

To the above poster that says tabs should be sold, you're on the right track. But for anything that's sold, there will always be in illegal P2P trade infringing on copyright and going against the user's licence.

My $0.02.

Crazyeelboy · #17 06-17-2007, 11:11 PM

In today's world, there is no way to stamp out all illegal copying and distribution - just can't happen. The best the industry can do is to offer products at a reasonable and competitive rate so that those of us who are inclined to pay for things actually will.

The part that burns me up about the tab situation is that the industry is shutting down tab sites without offering accessible alternatives.

Here is why it becomes important to all of us - with technology moving as it does, there is more and more room for people to make a living on self-produced music, so the guys getting screwed by illegal copying and distribution are more and more going to be regular Joes trying to make a living rather than the multi - million dollar rock star.