Is not liking another bass players success

JAUQO III-X · #1 12-23-2009, 11:40 AM

Is not liking another bass players success,really a blind determining factor deep within you?

And an artist success can be measured in many ways by those on the outside looking in.

Joe Nerve · #2 12-23-2009, 11:46 AM

I think you may need to elaborate on that one.

CapnSev · #3 12-23-2009, 11:48 AM

I don't think I totally understand, but if a bass player becomes successful at playing bass, awesome for them! I wish it were me.

Rickett Customs · #4 12-23-2009, 11:49 AM

I guess it comes down to some folks envy to the fact that someone else is doing what they long to do, I lived in this place for a long time, before I realized that it's what YOU make it for yourself...Besides, you might envy someone, they may envy what you have.

Case in point, I used to envy a guy I went to highschool with, that has went on to become a very successful drummer in the industry (won't be dropping his name though),
I'm sure he'd like to have time to start a family of his own, but that's a hard thing to do when you're all over the world........... so it can be a double edged sword.

**DougD** · #5 12-23-2009, 11:59 AM

Envy and jealousy are hard emotions for some people to deal with. For some it's all consuming and destructive. I'm glad I have that problem

err........Dont have that problem

scotch · #6 12-23-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

Is not liking another bass players success,really a blind determining factor deep within you?

And an artist success can be measured in many ways by those on the outside looking in.

Not liking the 'success' itself, or the musician enjoying that success?

True that there are many types of 'success' & relative ways of measuring it!

I'm not sure that I've ever "not liked" someone's accomplishments, or the person for said accomplishments. There's been times when I've been surprised by a particularly players' accolades, but that in no way results in some sort of judgement on my part, other than usually piquing curiosity about said player.

Ed Fuqua · #7 12-23-2009, 12:11 PM

What's that line from THERE WILL BE BLOOD, "There's something in me that cannot see someone else succeed.." or something like that. I'm happy that I've gotten to a place where it doesn't matter what anybody else sounds like, I can only sound like what I sound like.

Joe Nerve · #8 12-23-2009, 12:17 PM

A handful of people that I know, grew up with, or played with became some pretty big rockstars. For some of them I'm really happy, for others I'm not because along with their success came an equal amount of douchebaggery. I wouldn't say I'm jealous of anyone's good fortune though, envious maybe at times, but I've been pretty fortunate myself. As I think you're trying to say in the 2nd part of your post, success is NOT only in the amount of money you make make or stardom. For me a lot of it has to do with peace of mind and the knowlege that I'm putting out all my best along with all the love and good intent that I can. I like knowing that I can look anyone in the eye and walk with my head held high. Integrity means a lot to me.

dave64o · #9 12-23-2009, 12:20 PM

Mention Pete Wentz here and take a look at the reactions you get.

For the record I'm not one of those Fall Out Boy haters but I'm not a fan either. Just not my thing.

Personally, if you've accomplished what you set out to accomplish then you've succeeded, at least as far as I'm concerned. Success comes in many flavors.

JoZac21 · #10 12-23-2009, 12:25 PM

Being envious of another's success is a part of what drives people to have success of their own... I believe they call that capitalism...

4001 · #11 12-23-2009, 12:28 PM

I don't envy a style that I don't like. I do envy the chance to be successful at it though.

mccartneyman · #12 12-23-2009, 12:29 PM

I'm comfortable with my own limitations. I play as well as or better than many bass players who have made it, but I don't feel jealous or wish them ill will. Talent, despite what people may tell you, will not always "out." There's luck involved. When I see a player who plays better than I can, it doesn't bother me. I don't have binding speed, but I have a melodic sense superior to many other players an what I play, I play well. I'd like to say that I built up this attitude over my 45 years of playing, but really, I've had t from day one.

nutso42 · #13 12-23-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

Is not liking another bass players success,really a blind determining factor deep within you?

Depends. If they're a really really lame bass player, then I can understand why you wouldn't like their success. But if they are a genuinely talented bassist, then be happy for them and try to learn from their example.

Ed Fuqua · #14 12-26-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JoZac21

Being envious of another's success is a part of what drives people to have success of their own... I believe they call that capitalism...

No, capitalism is is an economic and social system in which capital, the non-labor factors of production (also known as the means of production), is privately controlled; labor, goods and capital are traded in markets; and profits distributed to owners or invested in technologies and industries.

**jmattbassplaya** · #15 12-27-2009, 12:55 AM

I really don`t care one way or another lol

Although there is another local band that I wish to be better than in all aspects, but that`s more of a childhood rivalry with an old friend than anything else.

Stingray19 · #16 12-27-2009, 08:31 PM

All depends. Alot of people hate certain bassists or are envious after they are madly successful or rich, and so they feel the need to hate on the bassist or criticize them or their playing when they may be a perfectly good bass player.

Personally, I don't let fame, success, or public persona cloud my opinions of a bass player and his playing.

Hoover · #17 12-28-2009, 06:36 AM

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Is not liking another bass players success

That sentence (sic) reminds me of some of the captions in the Post A Funnier Picture thread.

WalterBush · #18 12-28-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

Is not liking another bass players success,really a blind determining factor deep within you?

No. Despite what I may think of them as a bassist or a person, someone who is financially successful has learned to market themselves, a skill which I'm still learning. I can respect that, if nothing else. I'm not envious, and I don't see how not liking another player could drive anyone to do anything positive.

fenderfunker · #19 12-28-2009, 07:13 AM

Well, I don't like how I have not been as successful musically as I would have liked, but as my tastes are far from mainstream, it was never on the cards anyway. But to answer the question; of course I don't dislike another bass players success. How is that productive or constructive?....just do what you do.

dmusic148 · #20 12-28-2009, 07:14 AM

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... a blind determining factor...

Sorry, but what does that even mean?

Do I hate you if you succeed? Only if you suck.