OK Even for me, thats too much!!!

[Depth_Charge]

After the emo vs metalhead thread I searched Deicide on some music download software to see if I could download a few tracks through Blubster to find the one I liked MUSICALLY.

I'm not religious by nature but I like to think I am spritiual. As well as other religions I've researched the darker cults in my youth and found 2 distinct seperations, the "natural order" types, and the "worship" types. Debate and abuse away if you must.

Well, browsing the song titles alone, I find Deicides choice of titles quite reprehensible in my opinion!!!

It's now clearer to me how people can carry a face value prejudice to something like this!!!!

The band don't even give the music a chance to be heard, and thats coming from a fan of this type of music (not lyrics), ironic as that sounds.

Disgusting.

Sorry, rant over. Carry on.

Rant NOT over - to whoever started the thread where I complained about the Gospel vid link, and linked a Deicide video in stupid response without even checking the song title, I truly apologise. I will hunt that thread down to see if it still exists and purge the link from TB!

[thehurlatron]

I agree.

I haven't ever heard their music and I already think it's trash.

[afinalfantasy]

Glen Blenton is an idiot. Case and point, he has an inverted cross scarrified into his forehead.

They think they're being cool for being anti-religious, which is quite dumb. I always found offensive song titles usually to be dumb. Cannibal Corpse is far worse though, they try to hard

[metron]

Cannibal Corpse apparently does not take their song material seriously. That said I think its interesting that in general many people cant listen to music without getting caught up in what lyrics say or what those who sing believe in. In this case you have decided you dont like it before you hear it. I guess what other people think just isnt all that important to me unless I let it be. I should add that I could not care less about Deicide or Corpse but I do enjoy music with somewhat filthy or obnoxious lyrics. I just dont get caught up in it.

[jomahu]

i grew up scared of deicide. then i heard them and couldn't stop laughing.
and i love thrash.

[steve21]

I find it funny Glen Benton has the cross of St. Peter on his forehead.

Good going, dude!

[fatbassjazzer]

Originally Posted by DeliriumTrigger

Glen Blenton is an idiot. Case and point, he has an inverted cross scarrified into his forehead.

They think they're being cool for being anti-religious, which is quite dumb. I always found offensive song titles usually to be dumb. Cannibal Corpse is far worse though, they try to hard

I find them cool for being anti-religious. Its not dumb to be anti-religious. Offensive song titles are awesome also.

[fatbassjazzer]

Originally Posted by steve21

I find it funny Glen Benton has the cross of St. Peter on his forehead.

Good going, dude!

Thats not how he sees the cross on his forehead. One symbol can have very different meanings to people. To you it might be the cross of st. peter, but to him and plenty of other people it is the rejection and inversion of Christianity.

[Depth_Charge]

Originally Posted by fatbassjazzer

I find them cool for being anti-religious. Its not dumb to be anti-religious. Offensive song titles are awesome also.

Whatever floats your boat.

[jomahu]

Originally Posted by fatbassjazzer

I find them cool for being anti-religious. Its not dumb to be anti-religious. Offensive song titles are awesome also.

are they anti-religious or satanist? i dunno, i'm not too familiar with them.
i know satanism is symbolic of rebellion against christianity or whatever, but it always seemed kinda cheezy and reactionary. to me.

sorry if i offend any satanists here. i'm just a lowly athiest.

[Dragonlord]

I remember an interview of Glenn Benton on greek Metal Hammer over a decade ago, where he said that he has foreseen his death and it would come from an accident on the age of 33. I don't know how old he is now, but certainly more than that

[fatbassjazzer]

Originally Posted by jomahu

are they anti-religious or satanist? i dunno, i'm not too familiar with them.
i know satanism is symbolic of rebellion against christianity or whatever, but it always seemed kinda cheezy and reactionary. to me.

sorry if i offend any satanists here. i'm just a lowly athiest.

Yeah Deicide is a satanic band.

If you want to hear Glenn Benton's best work then listen to Vital Remains. He just does vocals for them. Listen to the CD "Dechristianize." Its one of the greatest death metal albums I own.

[lemur821]

Originally Posted by fatbassjazzer

I find them cool for being anti-religious. Its not dumb to be anti-religious. Offensive song titles are awesome also.

I'll take genuine anti-religion over silly death metal posing, anyway.

[Depth_Charge]

Originally Posted by fatbassjazzer

Yeah Deicide is a satanic band.

If you want to hear Glenn Benton's best work then listen to Vital Remains. He just does vocals for them. Listen to the CD "Dechristianize." Its one of the greatest death metal albums I own.

In order to be a satanic band and want to spread that message, you must be pro-religion.

Morbid Angel are also a "dark cult" band. Granted I've only listened to the one album, "Blessed the Sick/Day of Suffering", but I've never taken issue with the direction of their music as such. They refer to their celebreations, culture, their language, places of history (Nazareth is popular) etc.

To me, they simply celebrate a chosen religion, without going out of their way to offend others anymore than other religions do simply by celebrating their own ways.

I encourage everyone to listen to "Desolate Ways". Is it just a beautiful guitar piece with no lyrics or suggestions of anything but instrumental music and skills behind a (12-string?) guitar.

"Fall From Grace" is another example of Morbid Angels music where I believe they sing and celebrate the events leading up to Satan's rejection from Heaven, but do not offend Christians deliberately. Their moulding of metal and "classical" themes has always appealed to me.

Maybe they offend through existence alone, but in a tolerant society thats just a part of life we deal with daily

But people going out of their way to offend in such a manner, no thank you.

Am I being hypocritical you think? I don't, then again I have a personal investment in not feeling hypocritical, and am happy fielding opinions on the subject by all and sundry. Honest!

[fatbassjazzer]

Originally Posted by lemur821

I'll take genuine anti-religion over silly death metal posing, anyway.

Can you please explain to me how Deicide are posers? They've been together since 1987 when the genre was coming into its own.

[lemur821]

Originally Posted by fatbassjazzer

Can you please explain to me how Deicide are posers? They've been together since 1987 when the genre was coming into its own.

I didn't mean to suggest that they were. I don't even know if they're death metal. Just stating that I prefer legitimate insanity () to "Fermented Offal Discharge" style silliness.

Because metal is serious business.

[MaskedJackal]

My favorite extreme bands don't even tackle religion.

Atheist (Sure, a few times on Piece of Time, but I mean their best work- Unquestionable Presence, which is all trippy hippie stuff)
Carcass (gory stuff, then just inner darkness/politics)
Pestilence (crazy diseases, then obscure concepts)
Death (the last four albums- Chuck even says in an interview on Youtube that "religion's a personal thing," and that he doesn't like preaching or discussing it)
Coroner
Cynic (Philosophy! Yay!)

etc etc.

Bottom line is that in my mind, one can make extreme music without it being blasphemous, anti-religious, etc. I mean, the option's there, but it's quite the trend, yes? Hence my love for the above bands.

[fatbassjazzer]

Originally Posted by MaskedJackal

My favorite extreme bands don't even tackle religion.

Atheist (Sure, a few times on Piece of Time, but I mean their best work- Unquestionable Presence, which is all trippy hippie stuff)
Carcass (gory stuff, then just inner darkness/politics)
Pestilence (crazy diseases, then obscure concepts)
Death (the last four albums- Chuck even says in an interview on Youtube that "religion's a personal thing," and that he doesn't like preaching or discussing it)
Coroner
Cynic (Philosophy! Yay!)

etc etc.

Bottom line is that in my mind, one can make extreme music without it being blasphemous, anti-religious, etc. I mean, the option's there, but it's quite the trend, yes? Hence my love for the above bands.

You have named some very awesome bands. Death is my favorite band and Cynic isn't too far behind. Do you have the '91 Cynic demo? Its soooo good. Carcass is probably my next favorite on that list. I do like plenty of stuff that isn't anti-religious however I really enjoy anti-religious music also because often times I find it full of passion which I really enjoy.