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12-06-2011, 10:41 AM
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Here is all you ever need to know to play. Simple, powerful, groovy, and exactly what the song needs. Never more than necessary and always right on time. Led Zeppelin - When The Levee Breaks - YouTube |
12-06-2011, 10:42 AM
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12-06-2011, 10:46 AM
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12-06-2011, 11:06 AM
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"Dear Drummers. If you don't have your timing down, and you don't think metronomes are a good thing to use for your private practice, please don't ask me to be in your band. Furthermore, if you think a song is just a template for your solos and awesome tricky fills and you think a simple beat is boring, see above. Sincerely, the Bassist that actually has better time than you"
Sounds mean, but that's the way it is. Vent OFF.
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12-06-2011, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TC2112  Here is all you ever need to know to play. Simple, powerful, groovy, and exactly what the song needs. Never more than necessary and always right on time. |
That's excellent advice for any player regardless of instrument.
IMHO |
12-06-2011, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by iammr2 Why are you writing a letter to drummers in a bass forum? | 1. It's rhetoric, which seems to be lost on you
2. There are several drummers who frequent this board
3. Why are you posting if you have nothing insightful to add?
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12-06-2011, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve That's excellent advice for any player regardless of instrument.
IMHO | +1000 |
12-06-2011, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by iammr2 Why are you writing a letter to drummers in a bass forum? | +1 
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12-06-2011, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by iammr2 Why are you writing a letter to drummers in a bass forum? |
Ragging on drummers is a fun thing that most TB'ers like to do.
Its a dirty job, but someone has to do it. |
12-06-2011, 04:17 PM
| | Now 10% Less Offensive! | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Anchorage, Alaska | | Yeah, but this thread's not really a rag on drummers. It's just the OP'er telling us all that he really likes that song by Led Zepplin. In order to find an excuse to post a link to the song, he thought of making it look like it was a letter addressed to drummers. 
Seems kinda lame to me; like one of those TV commericals that insults your intelligence. Like the orange juice commerical where the guy has a staring contest with an orange.
The commerical and the OP both make me say, "Really?" 
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12-06-2011, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by iammr2 Why are you writing a letter to drummers in a bass forum? | some of us... go both ways.  |
12-06-2011, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by skychief Ragging on drummers is a fun thing that most TB'ers like to do.
Its a dirty job, but someone has to do it. | Excellent point!  |
12-06-2011, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by knumbskull some of us... go both ways. | Bi-rhythmic? |
12-06-2011, 04:26 PM
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12-06-2011, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by totallyfrozen Yeah, but this thread's not really a rag on drummers. It's just the OP'er telling us all that he really likes that song by Led Zepplin. In order to find an excuse to post a link to the song, he thought of making it look like it was a letter addressed to drummers.
Seems kinda lame to me; like one of those TV commericals that insults your intelligence. Like the orange juice commerical where the guy has a staring contest with an orange.
The commerical and the OP both make me say, "Really?" | Actually - you're very wrong. I'm not a huge Zeppelin fan, I am however a fan of this style of drummer, and use this particular piece, or a few similar type pieces to explain to potential drummer replacements as to what I am looking for in a style of player. It was posted as rhetoric to start a discussion amongst bass players regarding drummers, overplaying, and rhythm in general; as are most posts that start threads, intended to generate conversation. Surprisingly, this concept seems lost on you.
The high hat, kick and snare combination work on this particular song is a perfect example of "less is more"
And apparently that commercial worked on you, because you've remembered it.
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12-06-2011, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by iammr2 Bi-rythmic? |
exactly. |
12-06-2011, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by iammr2 Why are you writing a letter to drummers in a bass forum? | I'm a drummer...
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12-06-2011, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TC2112 ...And apparently that commercial worked on you, because you've remembered it. | Apparently it didn't because I don't know the product name (which is why I only referred to orange juice and not a brand name). 
It's ironic to think of bassists complaining of drummers overplaying when there are so many stories of guitarists complaining of bassists overplaying. I've played with guitarists who I think overplay too.
I think the bottom line for all of us (drummers, guitarists, bassists, etc.) is to leave some room in the music for other things. In a 3 piece that may not be as crucial but for other groupings I think it is. Seems natural for us to try to fill the space if it's there. It's harder to leave the space there and consider how it can be filled by someone else.
AC/DC has good examples of simple rhythms too. That said, the drumming style in the example tune wouldn't be appropriate for all styles of music. Rock and Country, sure. Jazz, various Latin styles, etc...not really.
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12-06-2011, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by iammr2 Why are you writing a letter to drummers in a bass forum? | Because who is going to read it to them? |
12-06-2011, 06:28 PM
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