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09-27-2005, 04:10 PM
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Holy crap - this is old but it made me laugh out loud.
If you like that, you'll probably like this...
it's designed by Les Claypool I believe
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09-27-2005, 04:26 PM
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09-27-2005, 04:31 PM
|  | Mayday! Moderator | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Jackson, MS | | | I think TB forbids links with written cursewords.
I would listen to that clip, but I'm pretty sure dude is far too British to be that country western. |
09-27-2005, 04:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dartmouth, Canada | | | Why does that guy care so much? Holy crap, someone he thinks is garbage is making lots of money. Welcome to reality of personal taste. |
09-27-2005, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by abark000 I think TB forbids links with written cursewords.
I would listen to that clip, but I'm pretty sure dude is far too British to be that country western. | Country Western? |
09-27-2005, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dlloyd Country Western? |
Did you listen to the clip? |
09-27-2005, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by abark000 Did you listen to the clip? | Yep. It's fairly run-of-the-mill British folk music. |
09-27-2005, 05:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edinboro, PA | | | I think the reason Kenny G is so big is so much controversy surrounds him. Sure, he sells a lot of CDs, but every used CDs Jazz stores are filled to the brim with Kenny G CDs that never go anywhere.
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09-27-2005, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dlloyd Yep. It's fairly run-of-the-mill British folk music. | Tomat-o, Toma-to. |
09-27-2005, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by abark000 Tomat-o, Toma-to. | Maybe. |
09-27-2005, 05:45 PM
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09-27-2005, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by john turner if you do a search you'll find that this topic has been done to death a long time ago. | Yeah, this is so 2003...
Nice to see you Post, JT. Don't be a stranger!
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09-27-2005, 06:14 PM
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Kenny G. is a sello*t (rhymes with mutt) for the almighty dollar. His music is crap. He has no musical soul. He is all about making money. To overdub his crap on a classic such as "What a Wonderful World" is just a cheap ploy to empty people's pockets who dont know better.
I would rather listen to a trash can falling down a very long staircase than listen to his "music".
Pat Metheny, on the other hand, is one of THE best musicians of our time. Innovative, tasteful and extremely talented.
Rant over 
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09-27-2005, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jared Morante Hmm I dunno. Some things ARE just bad. I think Kenny G is pretty offensive myself, and I was first and foremost a sax player. Someone's personal taste might mean they like Kenny G, but that just means their particular taste is...not good. 
I thought Pat's reason for having a problem with Kenny G was pretty clear cut myself. | Offensive? More like pathetic, methinks.
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09-27-2005, 08:19 PM
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09-27-2005, 08:38 PM
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09-27-2005, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackbird So, if Kenny G offered any of you guys a gig, would you take it? |
I'm not good enough to be in Kenny G's band...
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09-27-2005, 09:11 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ontario | | | That's kind of like asking someone if they'd want to be an American Idol. Sure, you get exposure and lots of money, but you'll never have credibility again.
IMO, the band "Hedley" is pretty good, but the singer will always be "that guy who was on Canadian Idol." Money? Sure. Good band making good musc? Yep. Credibility in the industry? ...not really. |
09-27-2005, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jared Morante Hmm I dunno. Some things ARE just bad. I think Kenny G is pretty offensive myself, and I was first and foremost a sax player. Someone's personal taste might mean they like Kenny G, but that just means their particular taste is...not good.
I thought Pat's reason for having a problem with Kenny G was pretty clear cut myself. | Lots of bands do travesty to lots of songs. Of course that's my opinion because some people must like it if these bands are selling CDs. To get so worked up about music someone else is making just seems a little unbalanced. Lots of people already think the guy is a joke... so who cares. |
09-27-2005, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Saunders That's kind of like asking someone if they'd want to be an American Idol. Sure, you get exposure and lots of money, but you'll never have credibility again.
IMO, the band "Hedley" is pretty good, but the singer will always be "that guy who was on Canadian Idol." Money? Sure. Good band making good musc? Yep. Credibility in the industry? ...not really. | How much credibility do you have now?
Lest we forget, there are people out there getting paid to play even worse stuff than Kenny G. Granted, Kenny Gorelick (his actual last name) is no Coltrane, but he did have a career as a studio musician in the 70s/80s and he's a successful artist (even in the loosest of terms) now and a lot of folks, myself included, I admit, would kill to have him on their gig resume.
I think it's commendable that you want to keep your artistic integrity, so to speak, but every person who has the ambition of becoming a pro musician must realize that their cred lies in their ability to play what they're hired to play and that's it.
Who has more cred, Dominique Di Piazza backing John McLaughlin or Lee Sklar backing Phil Collins? Does it really matter?
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