Perfect Pitch Ear Training SuperCourse

Thunder_Fingers · #1 07-19-2006, 01:10 PM

Hi.

Have anyone here on the forum used this course? (its the David Burges course)
Im considereing buying it, but its rather expensive, so i thought ill ask here if its good...

thanks.

mlbarlow · #2 07-19-2006, 01:14 PM

I can't offer anything of value here, but I'm interested as well. In my experience with individuals who have perfect pitch, they all have the same story ... they ididn't realize they had it until they realized other people[i]didn't[i] have it. I've never had anyone convince me that they actually learned it.

Someone prove me wrong, because I want to be.

kid_squanto · #3 07-19-2006, 01:14 PM

If it's the course that's always advertised in the back of Bass Player, I'd wouldn't waste your money. If you saw the picture or read the "testimonials" you'd know what I mean.

Thunder_Fingers · #4 07-19-2006, 01:17 PM

Yeah, i have read through the Web page, but i want some confirmation Outside of the web site of the maker... they always embrace their product and makes it look extremely good(Ofcourse) so i thought i would see if there was anything about it outside...

but your right, im not sure if bass player would use 2 sides on it if it didnt work...

geoffkhan · #5 07-19-2006, 01:18 PM

I researched it a lot (even though I already have natural perfect pitch :P), and it really does work--but what they don't tell you is how much work you have to put in to gradually attain near perfect pitch. This is a course that you have to work from every day. It has to be part of your regular daily practice schedule.

In this case you'd probably be better off just memorizing the pitches yourself. It's all about how long you can retain a pitch in your memory. Example: if I play you a middle C, you'll probably be able to remember it for 5 minutes, maybe more. If you exercise this, you can remember pitches for much longer.

A lot of sax players you'll meet can recognize an Eb or Bb just because they've heard it so many times.

BassChuck · #6 07-19-2006, 01:20 PM

Avoid it!

Perfect pitch isn't the answer most people expect it to be. I don't have it, but I play in band with several people who do. Yes, perfect pitch makes some things easier... but they have problems too that come from perfect pitch. This isn't the place to go into all that, but wishing to have perfect pitch is just a distraction from the following:

Train your ear. Its not an event, its a process. It is what you do as a musician, and you'll work with it all your musical life. Get to work.

tkozal · #7 07-19-2006, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoffkhan

I researched it a lot (even though I already have natural perfect pitch :P), and it really does work--but what they don't tell you is how much work you have to put in to gradually attain near perfect pitch. This is a course that you have to work from every day. It has to be part of your regular daily practice schedule.

In this case you'd probably be better off just memorizing the pitches yourself. It's all about how long you can retain a pitch in your memory. Example: if I play you a middle C, you'll probably be able to remember it for 5 minutes, maybe more. If you exercise this, you can remember pitches for much longer.

A lot of sax players you'll meet can recognize an Eb or Bb just because they've heard it so many times.

Excellent advice.

My pitch was good relative in college, but now 25 years later, I have heard the bass notes so often, below middle C my pitch is close to perfect, higher up, like ask me to unpack that inverted chord in the top octave of a piano, its back to being relative....

gdawg27 · #8 07-19-2006, 01:46 PM

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I can't offer anything of value here, but I'm interested as well. In my experience with individuals who have perfect pitch, they all have the same story ... they ididn't realize they had it until they realized other people didn't have it. I've never had anyone convince me that they actually learned it.

Hehe. That's me (sort of). I remember when I was a little kid (before I knew the concept of "key") hearing people singing songs and wondering why they weren't singing the same notes as the recording and why no one else noticed.

As for the ear training. I'd say try to familiarize yourself with notes you hear all the time. For example, the open strings on a bass. After tuning, I would play the open strings and then sing the notes to myself ("G" "D" "A" "E"), although, I don't know how well that would work if you're tone deaf.

theshadow2001 · #9 07-19-2006, 02:30 PM

This is free. Knock yourself out