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04-22-2006, 02:44 PM
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I still live with my parents and my dad just had a pacemaker put in. I was talking to a friend who said that his brother had to quit playing guitar because he got a pace maker put in. He said that the electromagnetic pick ups give off create an electro magnetic charge which can cause a pacemaker to malfunction resulting a heart attack. And the same for amps.The doctor has already told my dad the one about pacemakers and microwave ovens is wives tale. I dont want to take any chances so until my dad hears from the doctor i am not playing any electric guitars or electric basses. Is this wives tale or true? Anyone know?
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04-22-2006, 04:16 PM
|  | put a bird on it | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Minnesota | | | i don't know the real answer, but i would doubt it...i don't think that guitar or bass pickups creat a big enough charge that could cause damage to a pacemaker
but i could be wrong |
04-22-2006, 07:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Perth Australia | | there is no way a bass pickup or amp could create a large enough electromagnetic disturbance to interfere with the pacemaker. unless your dad managed to crawl into your amp. 
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04-22-2006, 07:35 PM
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one of the best bassist I know has a pacemaker and he plays all the time - he's had it for 5 or 6 years and hasn't keeled over yet, so I'm pretty darn sure it's just an ol' wives tale. |
04-22-2006, 07:43 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Urbana, IL | | | If that were true, people with pacemakers couldn't be around any speakers, because their magnets are a lot stronger than a pickup.
One thing that may have sprouted this rumor is the fact that they do use inductive (electromagnetic) interfaces on some of them to program them without cutting skin.
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04-23-2006, 01:33 PM
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there is no way a bass pickup or amp could create a large enough electromagnetic disturbance to interfere with the pacemaker.
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04-23-2006, 01:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South Africa | | | Surely pacemakers by now would be shielded to prevent outside electromagnetic sources from interfering?
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04-23-2006, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ebe9 Surely pacemakers by now would be shielded to prevent outside electromagnetic sources from interfering? | Here's a good page with some info: http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=4676
And another: http://atoz.iqhealth.com/Atoz/health...t06082000.html
Apparently, something on the range of an MRI is not a huge risk, but one that must be monitored. No speaker magnet is as strong as an MRI.
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04-23-2006, 05:08 PM
|  | <-- That guy looks like me, but old. | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Arlington TX | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by ebe9 Surely pacemakers by now would be shielded to prevent outside electromagnetic sources from interfering? | Actually we use magnets to test pacemakers. Periodically, the patient(s' parents) calls the TransTelephonic Monitoring line at my hospital and says "I have a follow-up TTM on John Smith." or whatever.
I look up Smith in the computer, find their John Smith and say "Ready."
They put the sensor over their kids pacemaker and it sends a signal. I start the TTM program recording. and halfway through the process, they set a big-ass magnet right on top of the pacemaker site. This temporarily drops the pacer back to factory default rate, about 80 beats/ minute until the magnet is removed, then it goes back to their programmed rate.
The tester magnet is SERIOUS. It's stronger than the ones in your amp. A lot stronger. Unless your bass distorts your TV picture when you carry it in front of your TV, your p'ups are nothing like strong enough to cause your dad a problem. And if they were, he could take it off his chest and it would stop.
And why is your dad rubbing your bass on his chest, anyway?
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04-23-2006, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bard2dbone And why is your dad rubbing your bass on his chest, anyway? | Haha
No no, the poster's father never was. The poster was just overly worried about his dad being anywhere near it at all.
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04-23-2006, 06:20 PM
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04-24-2006, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bard2dbone Unless your bass distorts your TV picture when you carry it in front of your TV, your p'ups are nothing like strong enough to cause your dad a problem. | It does, you just have to shove the bass up against the screen to do so.
Rock on
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04-24-2006, 12:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Detroit area, Troy, MI | | | If the leakage from 1000 W of microwave RF energy from a microwave oven really doesn't affect pacemakers, the guitar and amp are fine.
The energy diminishes rapidly with distance, so keep dad in the next room if you want to be really safe. Or cover him with tinfoil while you practice as a precaution.
Randy
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04-24-2006, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Cameron It does, you just have to shove the bass up against the screen to do so.
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that reminds me, i used to have this huge speaker next to my TV, and it made everything in the corner it was next to have a purple tint |
04-25-2006, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by thedonutman that reminds me, i used to have this huge speaker next to my TV, and it made everything in the corner it was next to have a purple tint | What? Like...even the dog? "Bowser! Get away from that speaker! You're turning purple again."
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