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09-23-2005, 08:16 AM
| | | | PRS/Gibson lawsuit finally over.
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As many of you know the lawsuit that prevented PRS from making the singlecut guitars was in appeal for a while. PRS won!!! So now they can ship out the singlecuts they had left and get back to making them again. Serves Gibson right IMO. | 
09-23-2005, 09:31 AM
| | | | Gibson just waited to sue someone who could actually pay a lawsuit fine, and now that's not going to happen. I love it. Gibson saying that someone might think a PRS singlecut was a Gibson is so absurd. PRS could pay so they are the ones that finally got sued.
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09-23-2005, 10:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: New York, NY | | | Given Gibson's current status, the idea that anyone who could afford a PRS would confuse it with a Gibson, or would want to trade on Gibson's industry "goodwill," is absurd.
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09-23-2005, 10:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ontario | | Rockin'! That Gibson lawsuit definitely put me off of them permanently (extremely tempted to buy a new Epi hollowbody, though...  ). I actually checked out the PRS site a little while back and they had no mention of the suit, and singlecuts had quite simply dropped off the page entirely.
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09-23-2005, 11:00 AM
| | Notes we play > Gear we play them on | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Wisconsin | | I asked the guy at Sam Ash why they stopped carrying Gibson/Epiphone guitars. There were literally none on the walls. He said it was because they were absolute bastards to deal with.
For a big store like that to drop one their biggest brands says a lot about the company and how they deal with people.
Just another indicator of Gibson's philosophy on business.  | 
09-23-2005, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperDuck Just another indicator of Gibson's philosophy on business.  | I heard things about $100,000 minimum orders, and more or less zero quality control. Stuff that made low end Ibanez look top notch kind of stuff.
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09-23-2005, 11:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Urbana, IL | | | Epeiphone is not too bad. Gibson is HORRIBLE!!!! They are the worst in treating thier customers with any respect. A local guitar shop I used to work at recieved a broken SG faded. They sent it back, and requested a replacement. They had to push for replacement, because Gibson wanted to just repair it. (They obviously paid for a new one, not a repair, so they wouldn't take a repaired one) So, after sending it back, it took a year and a half for them to get their replacement.
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09-23-2005, 12:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Yorkshire, UK | | | Woo, go PRS! Seriously that's great news, after seeing so many far more blatent Les Paul ripoffs from minor manufactures I was irritated to see Gibson attempt to sue PRS, I mean seriously, the PRS singlecut was even more expensive than most Les Pauls and a superior product, how on earth were people going to get confused between the two! Ah PRS rock.
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09-23-2005, 12:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: new jersey | | | gibson cs can suck all they want. people are still going to buy gibbies, people are still going to play them.
hell, if i ever play guitar in a band again, i will be getting another 69 reissue sg.
i dont know. prs is good and all, but its not a gibson. | 
09-23-2005, 01:12 PM
| | | | Finding a good Gibson is like finding a good MIM Fender, except five time harder. When you find a good one, you love it, but it's a long journey.
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09-23-2005, 02:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ottawa, Canada | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by xshawnxearthx gibson cs can suck all they want. people are still going to buy gibbies, people are still going to play them.
hell, if i ever play guitar in a band again, i will be getting another 69 reissue sg.
i dont know. prs is good and all, but its not a gibson. | Have you ever actually played a PRS? Its like driving Hondas all your life and then climbing into a Ferrari. I can hack out a few tunes on a geetar, but when I picked up my buddy's PRS, even I sounded great. So you are right...prs is no Gibson, but that's only important to people who care what name is on the headstock. PRS rocks. | 
09-23-2005, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by xshawnxearthx gibson cs can suck all they want. people are still going to buy gibbies, people are still going to play them. | True. What can I say? Some people are idiots. Quote: |
hell, if i ever play guitar in a band again, i will be getting another 69 reissue sg.
| So, your saying that even though you know Gibson sucks you would still buy one?  Are you saying you would buy it just for the name? Thats like someone buying a Gibson era Tobias and thinking they have a real Tobias. Quote: |
i dont know. prs is good and all, but its not a gibson.
| No, its not a Gibson. Its better! | 
09-23-2005, 07:54 PM
| | ...Bluesin' and Funkin' | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada | | | I just looked at the PRS singlecut, it's not original at all, it's a 99% copy of the LesPaul. Not that it's wrong, but they could have at least put some originality into the design.
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09-23-2005, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottie Johnson Finding a good Gibson is like finding a good MIM Fender, except five time harder. When you find a good one, you love it, but it's a long journey. | I haven't played a bad 335, I've played some dog Paul's but something about a good 335 still does it for me. 
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09-23-2005, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jazzin' I just looked at the PRS singlecut, it's not original at all, it's a 99% copy of the LesPaul. Not that it's wrong, but they could have at least put some originality into the design. | How about the multitudes of 100%, unlicensed copies?
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09-23-2005, 10:00 PM
|  | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | Well, let's take a look. Here's the PRS:
And here's the Paul: 
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09-23-2005, 11:15 PM
|  | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | | OK, I've tried to overlay the PRS on the Gibson. Let's see how this looks.
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09-23-2005, 11:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bel Air Maryland | | | Gibson should start making Single Cuts with bird inlays. Then PRS can sue them.
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09-24-2005, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by The Nanny Have you ever actually played a PRS? Its like driving Hondas all your life and then climbing into a Ferrari. I can hack out a few tunes on a geetar, but when I picked up my buddy's PRS, even I sounded great. So you are right...prs is no Gibson, but that's only important to people who care what name is on the headstock. PRS rocks. | I've never played a PRS that I truly loved. It's really personal preference. My taste leans toward my 96 Les Paul and away from any PRS that I've played.
That said , "better", is never a univeral thing. | 
09-24-2005, 12:25 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NYC/LI | | | i concur, my dad has an es335 that he got used in '72 and the thing still plays freakin awesome...when it stays in tune. I feel like epiphones are the way to go, my guitarist's epi LP just feels nicer than any of the new gibson stuff.
prs is pretty pricey though.
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