question on screaming

Araillac · #1 11-28-2008, 09:36 PM

can you throw up from screaming? I have really strong vocal cords and i can scream for a really long time and when im done im perfectly fine and i dont have any throat pain at all and ive never gotten a sore throat from screaming but here's the problem. I can scream for so long that after a while, if I'm screaming really forcefully, i feel like i need to throw up. So is it possible that if I keep screaming I'll throw up?

TheoFly · #2 11-28-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Araillac

So is it possible that if I keep screaming I'll throw up?

Yes.

But, just because it doens't give you a sore throat doesn't mean you aren't trashing you vocal chords and setting youself up for problems down the road.

Check this out:
http://www.wikihow.com/Properly-Stre...With-Screaming

Araillac · #3 11-28-2008, 09:59 PM

I already know about that but sometimes it's fun to scream forcefully lol.

Planets Collide · #4 11-28-2008, 11:18 PM

http://www.wordsasweapons.com/punkscreaming.htm

baalroo · #5 11-28-2008, 11:29 PM

Yeah, I used to scream and yell the back-up vocals in my old noise-rock band and I would end up puking quite regularly... it actually really sucked, but everyone always commented on how awesome my vocals sounded paired with our lead singer's so I just "took one for the team."

Araillac · #6 11-28-2008, 11:33 PM

ouch lol

Araillac · #7 11-28-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Planets Collide

http://www.wordsasweapons.com/punkscreaming.htm

Are you saying that I could have, as the article says, vocal chords of "tensile steel strength"?

Planets Collide · #8 11-29-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Araillac

Are you saying that I could have, as the article says, vocal chords of "tensile steel strength"?

i mean, i wouldnt use them for building a bridge or anything, but its good for keeping your vocal chords from crapping out on you.

**Pacman** · #9 11-29-2008, 12:52 AM

Please post here in 5 years - you'll have plenty of time, since the nodes will keep you from even speaking at that point.

EssJay · #10 11-29-2008, 01:32 AM

If any vocal style maks you want to throw up then you're doing it wrong.
I used to feel like this after a few minutes of doing death metal growls, but I changed my technique and it no longer happens. Are you pushing the screams out with your throat? That's what I used to do with growls and after a while I'd start dry retching, once I started pushing out from the gut area I could actually growl alot lower and it no longer hurts my throat.
So long story short, change your technique.

Metal Matt · #11 11-29-2008, 02:15 AM

If you experience any pain, you're doing something wrong. If you feel the need to puke after singing... once again, doing something wrong. Don't force things so much! You won't ruin your voice from screaming, but you will ruin your voice from screaming wrong. You should, for the most part, be pretty relaxed while screaming. Forcing it is no good.

So anyways, there's my two cents.

baalroo · #12 11-29-2008, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by EssJay

If any vocal style maks you want to throw up then you're doing it wrong.
I used to feel like this after a few minutes of doing death metal growls, but I changed my technique and it no longer happens. Are you pushing the screams out with your throat? That's what I used to do with growls and after a while I'd start dry retching, once I started pushing out from the gut area I could actually growl alot lower and it no longer hurts my throat.
So long story short, change your technique.

I used to be a trained choral singer (ie: college trained, not a weekend church warrior) and know the proper singing techniques. I know when I was having the puking issue I was certainly not singing from my throat. I also never had any issue with vocal chord strain, no pain or even discomfort for that matter. From time to time, if you are singing properly you may feel the need to belch, take that a step further and "scream" properly with a lot of intensity and the belching feeling becomes a puking feeling if, like me, you have a very weak gag reflex.

Matt Till · #13 11-30-2008, 08:20 PM

In the metal band I played with a while back, the singer screamed until he passed out a number of times. It would be a hot day, and he'd be doing this sustained screaming stuff and he'd get dizzy and pass out. It's dangerous stuff, research the subject and SCREAM WITH CAUTION!

Araillac · #14 11-30-2008, 09:57 PM

well ive tried a lot of different screaming techniques but it normally happens either way after about an hour or more of screaming. could it be that im just screaming too much?

Deacon_Blues · #15 12-01-2008, 01:00 AM

If you're doing it in such a way you don't feel it in your throat in any way, you're probably doing it right. I'm saying 'probably' because you might feel something but don't acknowledge it, and/or you might not be sure about what mode you're using behind the distortion, which is vital to know so you scream on the right vowel for the mode in question. Screaming is singing a high pitched loud note with distortion, and there's many ways to sing the high note to which you add the distortion effect. The distortion effect can be done in only one proper way, and that way does not involve the vocal cords in the larynx, but the false vocal cords above it.

My guess is that if you're doing it right and still feel like puking, it's because of one or both of these reasons:

- Your screaming takes a lot of effort to perform and especially at longer screams you're preventing oxygen from getting to your brain (since you don't breathe when you sing out a note). Singing a long high note gives me headache because of this particular reason regardless if I use distortion on it or not. It requires a lot of energy.

- You're getting physically tired from the screaming. Singing (especially high notes for long times) is hard work and when you get exhausted you might start doing things the wrong way as it's harder to maintain full control then. Being physically fit helps here.