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05-10-2004, 03:13 PM
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I was reading in a local newspaper that the song "My Band" by D12 (w/ Eminem) is about the group dynamics between a superstar lead singer and the other groups members in the shadows. I thought Eminem was making fun of other rock bands - never considered D12 or any other rap group a band. I'm not even sure if they would consider themselves a band...(Public Enemy--a band???).
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05-10-2004, 03:17 PM
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05-10-2004, 03:18 PM
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05-10-2004, 03:34 PM
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Makes me wonder about "boy bands" as well.
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05-10-2004, 03:37 PM
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05-10-2004, 03:46 PM
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05-10-2004, 04:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Whitmoretucky MI | | | A traditional band I would say no. Technically speaking maybe yes. I would say a group would be more fitting. A group of lyricists maybe. Traditionally what we would consider a band contains muscians that play some sort of instruments. This style of music is lyricists with a supporting cast of DJ's. |
05-10-2004, 04:07 PM
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05-10-2004, 05:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada | | | Yeah, that's one of the lines that threw me. He refers to himself as a lead singer so I thought it was spoofing rock bands. |
05-10-2004, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jazzbo Voice is an instrument. | Very true, if not the most difficult. But generally the reason this thread was started was kind of saying when the average person thinks of the term "band" generally the traditional instrument guitar,bass, drums come to mind. You can call rappers a band but they don't refer to themselves that way eithier. |
05-10-2004, 05:28 PM
| | Howzit brah | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kauai, HI | | | I would say that "rap" groups such as the Beastie Boys could be considered a band because they actually Play Their Instruments. Same for the Roots and a ton of others I'm sure. No instruments = no band to me, although somebody like Bobby McFerrin might disagree.
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05-10-2004, 05:48 PM
| | A Hard Rockin Lover of GREENBURST Moderator | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Where I lay my head is home | | | I have heard rappers refer to themselfes more as "Artist" then "Musican"
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05-10-2004, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by lesforprez I would say that "rap" groups such as the Beastie Boys could be considered a band because they actually Play Their Instruments. Same for the Roots and a ton of others I'm sure. No instruments = no band to me, although somebody like Bobby McFerrin might disagree. | Define "instruments." |
05-10-2004, 06:14 PM
| | Howzit brah | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kauai, HI | | | Well, using the Beastie Boys as an example - they've been known to play their own guitars, basses and drums (maybe some keys too?) live. If I saw 5 guys standing on stage holding microphones I would tend to call it a group rather than a band - but that's just me.
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05-10-2004, 06:21 PM
| | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Still in Margaritaville | | | I would call a group of rappers with their Djs or regular musicians who form a part of the group a band. No, they aren't a traditional band in the commonly understood context, but what else would they be...a choir? A quartet? An acapella group? A vocal group?
Actually, there are probably cogent arguments that rappers are not a band and equally compelling arguments that they are. I tend to think of them as a type of band. Consider the Black Eyed Peas...not "real" rappers, but close enough for me. I call them a band.
I'll stand by my opinion, but others are welcome to disagree.
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05-10-2004, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MAJOR METAL I have heard rappers refer to themselfes more as "Artist" then "Musican" | that would be my take as well...they're definately musicians but I hadn't ever heard a rap group referred to as a band.
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05-10-2004, 06:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Diego | | | i think that you jump from being labeled a "band" when you choose to headline yourself alone. "The Roots" and "Jurassic 5" are bands just the same as "The Beatles" or "Modest Mouse" are, but "Eminem" is about a much a band as... say... "Jewel".
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05-10-2004, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharp "Eminem" is about a much a band as... say... "Jewel".
just my .02 though
later- | She has a backup band, which actually play instrments...she also plays guitar. I think that makes her more of a band than a guy who talks over a beat (yay stereotypes!). |
05-10-2004, 06:39 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Mesa/Boogie - Shop Manager/Tech, SF Guitarworks | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | I find that most rap "bands" are nothing more than one artist, backed by his entourage.
But who cares what they are called? If they are making music, it doesn't matter if they are called a group, accumulation, aggregation, assemblage, assembly, association, assortment, band, batch, battery, bevy, body, bunch, bundle, cartel, circle, class, clique, clot, club, clump, cluster, clutch, collection, combination, combine, company, conglomerate, congregation, coterie, covey, crew, crowd, faction, fit-out, formation, gang, gathering, grade, league, lot, mess, organization, pack, parcel, party, passel, platoon, pool, set, shooting match, society, sort, suite, syndicate, or troop. What you are suggesting is semantical BS. |
05-10-2004, 07:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | the x-ecutioners. i'd call that a band. but, they don't really rap. just scratch.
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