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02-01-2005, 11:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Virginia | | | real books are legal now
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now we just need them to hurry up with the bass version
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02-02-2005, 12:06 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ontario | | | IIRC, "real" books have been legal the whole time -- "fake" books are the ones that aren't/weren't.
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02-02-2005, 02:30 AM
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02-02-2005, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by armybass now we just need them to hurry up with the bass version | Cool, huh? Quote: |
Originally Posted by Govithoy IIRC, "real" books have been legal the whole time -- "fake" books are the ones that aren't/weren't. | The Real Book is a specific book of jazz transcriptions done by some Berkeley students in the 1970s. It is a fake book (it allows you to fake your way through a tune you don't really know), the title is a play on words. It's always been illegal. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Jace the Bass Does this mean you can download it for free? | No. You can buy it from Hal Leonard though. http://www.halleonard.com/item_detai...temid=00240221 | 
02-02-2005, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dlloyd Cool, huh? The Real Book is a specific book of jazz transcriptions done by some Berkeley students in the 1970s. It is a fake book (it allows you to fake your way through a tune you don't really know), the title is a play on words. It's always been illegal.
No. You can buy it from Hal Leonard though. http://www.halleonard.com/item_detai...temid=00240221 | Yeah, but with tunes missing. At least they didn't ruin the font and layout. | 
02-02-2005, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Sock Justice Yeah, but with tunes missing. At least they didn't ruin the font and layout. | Which tunes are missing?
I have the fifth edition... I was thinking about looking at getting a legit copy because of the errors in the Real Book, but if there's tunes missing... | 
02-02-2005, 06:41 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Virginia | | | "A Foggy Day" for one. That is my favorite tune and it is missing in the new Legal Version of The Real Book.
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02-02-2005, 07:08 AM
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02-02-2005, 09:05 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | Not to pick nits, but BERKLEE, not Berkeley. Boston, not California.
To each his own, certainly, but why bass clef? They're not going to be written where they sound (ie all above the staff). If you want to do a session and run off some tunes for the other cats, you're going to have to run around and find a treble clef version to make copies from. In a "controlled" situation like school or military band where pretty much everybody will have their own maybe it's OK. But I haven't been to a session where cats bring books. If you want to do a tune that you think most folks don't know, you bring a copy of the treble clef lead sheet for everybody. Bb instruments tarnspose, Eb instruments transpose, and hey, as a bass clef instrument, if I want to cop the melody, I transpose.
But that's just me, I guess.
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02-02-2005, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua Not to pick nits, but BERKLEE, not Berkeley. Boston, not California. | Oops. Knew where it was, just not how to spell it. | 
02-06-2005, 08:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany (org. Preston, UK) | | great, now my real book smuggeling days are over...
I suppose I could start forgeing real books and selling them at a reasonable profit for myself, and asosiates... | 
02-06-2005, 01:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Virginia | | | Hey Jon, can you edit it? Can you add Ret. to it........LOL.
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02-07-2005, 09:47 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, NJ | | Yeah, I saw one, and I asked the store owner why he had it on the counter. He said "it's okay, they're legal now, but the old ones are better, they're back here" and I had to laugh. I'm using the 5th edition and AFAIK, it's the standard.
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02-08-2005, 02:11 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | I've got a Bass Clef Real Book - it's the "AB Real Book" .
So - this stands for Associated Board (of the Royal Schools of Music)- which is the official music examiner in the UK - Jazz education came onto the syllabus for music and they produced their own Real Book, with the help of a lot of UK Jazz pros who are also teachers. http://www.jazzwise.com/catalog/prod...oducts_id=1195
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02-08-2005, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua Not to pick nits, but BERKLEE, not Berkeley. Boston, not California.
To each his own, certainly, but why bass clef? They're not going to be written where they sound (ie all above the staff). If you want to do a session and run off some tunes for the other cats, you're going to have to run around and find a treble clef version to make copies from. In a "controlled" situation like school or military band where pretty much everybody will have their own maybe it's OK. But I haven't been to a session where cats bring books. If you want to do a tune that you think most folks don't know, you bring a copy of the treble clef lead sheet for everybody. Bb instruments tarnspose, Eb instruments transpose, and hey, as a bass clef instrument, if I want to cop the melody, I transpose.
But that's just me, I guess. | Never saw any use for a bass clef book either. Treble clef all the way, transposed as needed. Though of course if there's a very distinct and specific bass part that's not a snap to pick up, it's nice to have the bass part *in addition* to the treble clef melody. Sorta the way the Sher books tend to do it.
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02-08-2005, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Lindsey Never saw any use for a bass clef book either. | The book I mentioned above, is aimed at horn players who read Bass Clef : like Trombone,Tuba etc. - not DBers - so they can play the melody.
I thought it would be a good idea to buy the book as it was compiled by a lot of the teachers I work with in the UK and it has some interesting material and arrangements - they had Eb,Bb and Bass Clef versions in the shop - so I bought the latter!
It is good fun to practice at home by picking out a tune and playing a melody for a change, rather than just practicing bass lines all the time....? 
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02-08-2005, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield The book I mentioned above, is aimed at horn players who read Bass Clef : like Trombone,Tuba etc. - not DBers - so they can play the melody.
It is good fun to practice at home by picking out a tune and playing a melody for a change, rather than just practicing bass lines all the time....?  | Oh yeah, a bass clef book is the right thing for tuba players et al.
I agree about it being good fun to play the melodies ... but generally I just read the treble clef melodies and transpose them mentally. That way I only need one copy of a book for all purposes. 
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02-08-2005, 11:58 AM
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