recommend a guitar amp??

[a e i o u]

im trying to get a guitar amp but i keep getting no where with my discoveries. im going for the Modest Mousey kind of tone. I know Issac uses 2 huge fender super reverb 6x10's.. at least i think thats what it is called. However.. I always head that fender amps don't really sound that awesome until you crank them, but once you crank them the volume is just too loud to really use often. I was looking at the hot rod deluxe and deville as well as the blues deville. I am worried that even these 2 small combos will be too loud for my room and band practice though, but on the other hand i worry that the small size of the amp won't seem to move enough air as i'd like. I just want a big sound but for it to be really creamy and clean and thick and syrupy and the overdrive to be that of over driven tubes. i use a ts-9 pedal. i don't know if i should of gotten a ts808 though

[lunarpollen]

The Vox Valvetronix series (with the silver grills) have really nice Fender sound models... They are hybrid modeling amps and have several different amp simulations built in.

[bluestarbass]

Warm and creamy = tubes
ability to saturate at low volumes = solid state

You have a trade off there. Its not just fender amps, but all tube amps youll have to turn up to a decent level to get some good saturation out of them. I have a fender prosonic, which is regarded as Fenders highest gain all tube amp they ever made. I still have to turn it up to about 3 before I really like the sound. At 3 its still too loud for my bedroom, but not too loud for band practice. Whats your budget? Do you want a combo or a stack?

Id suggest: fender super-sonic, vox ac15, mesa boogie mark series

Those boosts are really for like high gain amps, like jcms and rectifiers, ive never tried boosting a low gain fender, not to say that wont work, ive just never heard of it.

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Look at one of the 5 watt 1x8 or 1x10 tube combos (loads of makers). They are generally pretty cheap, and sound pretty good for the price

[Philbiker]

Originally Posted by a e i o u

I always head that fender amps don't really sound that awesome until you crank them, but once you crank them the volume is just too loud to really use often. I was looking at the hot rod deluxe and deville as well as the blues deville. I am worried that even these 2 small combos will be too loud for my room and band practice though, but on the other hand i worry that the small size of the amp won't seem to move enough air as i'd like.

That has been my experience.

Two amps to consider - Peavey "Classic 30", Fender "Blues Junior". Try to audition them at local shops. Both amps are immensely popular and very well regarded so they should be fairly easy to find at local shops.

[i_got_a_mohawk]

The Peavey Classic 30 is a great amp

I did however sell mine recently, just because ive got a TE 100 watt valve head with a peavey 4x12. And got the TE modified so it could be 100 watt, 50 watt or 25 watt (the only modification being to allow it to come down to 25 watt)

[Deacon_Blues]

I have a Hot Rod Deluxe, bought it 10 years ago when I still was a guitarist. I always loved that amp, at least the clean channel. The dist channel(s) are terrible. I use it together with a Hughes&Kettner Tubeman preamp and that is a great combination. It gives me exactly the sounds I want. The only drawback with the amp is that it misses a master volume knob.

I don't really understand the snobbery that you need to push a tube amp to it's limit to sound good. Sure it sounds good when you boost the clean channel so it distorts when you play hard, but I get that from my Tubeman so I don't need to push the clean channel on the amp. I've understood that it's pretty easy to have a master volume knob installed on the amp if wanted. That would enable you to turn up the clean channel to its limit without the unnecessary extra volume it otherwise would mean. I haven't had this done to mine though.

I never had the problem that the amp was too loud on a practice, I've always managed to set the volume to a reasonable level. On the other hand, a friend of mine who have a 100W, 2x12 carvin tube amp do have this problem...

[CrazyArcher]

One more vote for the Peavey. Great amp, my guitarist had it, and definately worth to check out.

[a e i o u]

i was willing to spend around 700.. has anyone have any experience with the Orange Tiny Terror?? The 15 watts scares me but many say its decent for small clubs ect.. I was aiming for a combo but the Tiny Terror interests me alot as I could get a cheap cab until i could afford something nicer

[bluestarbass]

i was willing to spend around 700.. has anyone have any experience with the Orange Tiny Terror?? The 15 watts scares me but many say its decent for small clubs ect.. I was aiming for a combo but the Tiny Terror interests me alot as I could get a cheap cab until i could afford something nicer

I was darn close to pulling the trigger on a tiny terror. The general consensus was they are great in the studio, but they wouldnt be able to keep up with a drummer. If your micing it and putting it through a 4x12 maybe, but I wouldnt risk it. Its a very cool amp, but in the end i needed something with 60 watts so I wasnt scared id be buried by a drummer.

[Nedmundo]

Originally Posted by Philbiker

Two amps to consider - Peavey "Classic 30", Fender "Blues Junior". Try to audition them at local shops. Both amps are immensely popular and very well regarded so they should be fairly easy to find at local shops.

These would be my recommendations. The Hot Rod Deluxe is a fantastic amp, but it might be too loud for real tube overdrive in your situation. With your $700 limit you could also score a 22 watt Fender Deluxe Reverb on the used market or if you find one heavily discounted. They're very bright sounding amps compared to the Hot Rods.

Modelling amps have gotten pretty good though. I have a Roland Cube 60, and it's outstanding. It has a "Dyna-amp" model that breaks up progressively as input volume increases, so it can act a little like a tube amp. Will you mistake it for a Deluxe Reverb breaking up nicely? No, but it's pretty cool. And the Roland's clean channel, based on the Jazz Chorus, is fantastic -- better IMO than the comparable solid state amps. It's a great platform for effects. One of my last band's guitarists used it on stage several times, and it worked amazingly well for such an inexpensive solid state amp.

[matt bass]

If you liked the Tiny Terror try Orange's Rocker 30 combo. My guitarist has never had a problem keeping up with drums, bass, PA, everything!