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05-27-2006, 11:46 AM
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Came across this on Ultimate-guitar: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/...lagiarism.html
I know that you can't copyright chords or keys, but the similarities seem to go beyond that. Listen to the mp3, it's interesting. What do you think, plagarism or coincidence? |
05-27-2006, 11:51 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Georgetown, TX | | | George Harrison was found to have plagiarized "He's So Fine" when he wrote the music to "My Sweet Lord," and what the court mainly went by was the uniqueness of the chord progression. This (RHCP) seems to go beyond Harrison's unintentional "borrowing." (BTW, it was the court that found George had plagiarized who characterized it as unintentional.)
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05-27-2006, 11:51 AM
| | | | Those two songs are sufficiently different that any accusation of plagiarism is ridiculous. |
05-27-2006, 11:59 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: DuPont, Washington | | | Everybody's rippin' off Petty. Tell me HIM's "Rip Out the Wings of a Butterfly" isn't a rip of "Woman in Love". |
05-27-2006, 12:00 PM
| | ...cultural explorer | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hinsdale, IL - outside Chicago | | | True, they do sound similar, but it's not plagiarized. It's common rhythm to hit the first two beats like that on a chord change.
Also - would RHCP be stupid enough to plagiarize the main single off their huge new album? I don't think so.
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05-27-2006, 12:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Isle of Lucy | | Read between the lines. This isn't really a significant accusation. I'd like to know if the "radio presenter" was just trying to get his show some ratings or if he actually cares. The article makes no claim that any action will be taken or if there is any reason to, in the first place. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Article According to a recent Drowned In Sound report, a US radio presenter has accused the Red Hot Chili Peppers of plagiarism, claiming that the band's "Dani California" single is near identical to Tom Petty's "Mary Jane's Last Dance". | Also, the .mp3 sounds like "Last Dance..." was sped up a bit.
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05-27-2006, 12:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London | | | Yeah, tempos were changed, and if you listen to the two songs together at the same tempo, you can tell that the chords are different. Only the first 4 lines of lyrics are alike.
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05-27-2006, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by britrit Yeah, tempos were changed, and if you listen to the two songs together at the same tempo, you can tell that the chords are different. Only the first 4 lines of lyrics are alike. | Hmmm, I'm not that familiar with Petty. Good catch. |
05-27-2006, 02:30 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Glendale & La Jolla, CA | | | I read about this a few days (before the article) on the UG Forums.
I dont' think that it's plagarism, the Tom Petty song is really sped up, the bass isn't the same, the lryics aren't that alike, most rock drumbeats are super-similar, the song after the intro is completely different.
And who the heck is that guy to smash RHCP for stealing an intro? The most famous goddamn intro of all time, Stairway to Heaven, is COMPLETELY stolen from the song "Spirit" by Taurus. |
05-27-2006, 08:14 PM
| | Craftsman | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fort Montgomery, NY | | | Yeah, I think that radio presenter should just keep to himself.
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05-27-2006, 08:18 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Long Island, NY | | | It's similar, but not the same. I doubt it was an intentional lift.
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05-27-2006, 08:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Dallas | | | I did notice that when Dani California came out and it would get stuck in my head, I ended up singing Tom Petty's last dance... You guys are right. This isn't really a formal accusation. Just a douche behind the mic being a douche behind a mic. I hate DJs. |
05-27-2006, 08:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Urbana, IL | | | So what? How many punk bands sound nearly the same?
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05-27-2006, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by steve21 The most famous goddamn intro of all time, Stairway to Heaven, is COMPLETELY stolen from the song "Spirit" by Taurus. |
Zep is well known for plagerism....
Dazed and confused anyone?
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05-27-2006, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by steve21 The most famous goddamn intro of all time, Stairway to Heaven, is COMPLETELY stolen from the song "Spirit" by Taurus. |
Really? I've never heard that tune, nor  the accusation before..... |
05-27-2006, 08:44 PM
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05-27-2006, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Blisshead Weak. | Totally.
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05-28-2006, 12:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: A Sandgropers' City | | | This isn't the first intro I've heard RHCP accused of stealing for a single either - anyone heard the metallica cover "Breadfan" - (sorry I can't remember who the original artist was) That intro sounds identical to one of the singles off Californication - until the tempo changes to Fleas' bass.
But seriously - so what? |
05-28-2006, 01:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: footballscannotbekickediguess | | | Yeah, like when RHCP totally ripped off that badass Crazytown band.
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05-28-2006, 02:14 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Adelaide South Australia | | | My Favourite piece of Rock plagiarism is "Am I ever Gonna see your face again" by The Angels (Angel City in the US). Play that back to back with Status Quo's "Lonely Man". Same song with different words. Ok the police siren guit intro is also diff, but thats it! The Angels had a massive hit with it in Australia. So much so that its still an Oz Rock Classic today. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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