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06-04-2008, 08:30 PM
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and everything that came close to that scene.
Personal favourites of mine in that genre include:
Yaphet Kotto
Reversal Of Man
Joshua Fit For Battle
Jeromes Dream
Funeral Diner
Cease Upon The Capitol
Welcome The Plague Year
Phoenix Bodies
La Quiete
Raeine
The Death Of Anna Karina
and one of those new Funeral Diner projects is great, ...Who Calls So Loud., I totally think people should pick up their new 2x10" record.
Anyone on here in a screamo band themselves?
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06-04-2008, 08:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland | | | If anyone mentions the bands Bless The Fall, Still Remains, Emarosa or any of the related Keyboard metal bands, you are automatically an ******* for thinking they are screamo.
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06-06-2008, 06:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: montreal, qc, Canada | | | Funeral Diner's "The Underdark" is a great album. City of Caterpillar and Pg. 99 are pretty good too, but my knowledge/library ends around there. I'll look into Who Calls So Loud. | 
06-07-2008, 08:48 AM
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Catharsis
Neil Perry
Orchid
I don't know if the first two would be considered screamo w/in the scene, but stylistically, they're similar enough and worth checking out.
Edit: I can't believe I almost forgot: Systral!!! Pretty essential for anyone remotely interested in screamo.
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06-07-2008, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by scottblessed If anyone mentions the bands Bless The Fall, Still Remains, Emarosa or any of the related Keyboard metal bands, you are automatically an ******* for thinking they are screamo. | Ugh....
Yet another "you're an idiot for thinking [insert band] is [insert vaguely designated genre]" post.
Dude, come off it. Don't you dare start slinging insults just because you think your opinion is more valid than anyone else's. Music is becoming harder and harder to define these days, even within the largely accepted genres like rock, jazz, and classical - I heard bands that blur the lines even between such easily defined boundaries. To say that something definitely isn't screamo, metalcore, or vegetarian Norwegian grindcore is simply asinine, especially when you automatically insult all others who don't hold the same opinion as you.
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06-07-2008, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Strange Ugh....
vegetarian Norwegian grindcore | To be fair, Ben:
Don't eat meat?
From Norway?
Songs about putting a captive bolt through Ted Nugent's skull and the like?
You either are or you aren't.
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06-07-2008, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Against Will To be fair, Ben:
Don't eat meat?
From Norway?
Songs about putting a captive bolt through Ted Nugent's skull and the like?
You either are or you aren't. | Some vegetarians eat fish.
Maybe they were born in Norway to Vietnamese parents who were just visiting, and who were subsequently killed by Ted Nugent, and then raised by timberwolves in Finland.
Maybe the songs are about waterboarding, which isn't technically torture, right? | 
06-07-2008, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Strange Some vegetarians eat fish.
Maybe they were born in Norway to Vietnamese parents who were just visiting, and who were subsequently killed by Ted Nugent, and then raised by timberwolves in Finland.
Maybe the songs are about waterboarding, which isn't technically torture, right? | Pfft, typical liberal. 
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06-07-2008, 04:26 PM
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...just kidding.
If it's your bag of tea, then go for it. I'm happy for you. It's just not for me.
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06-08-2008, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Strange Ugh....
Yet another "you're an idiot for thinking [insert band] is [insert vaguely designated genre]" post.
Dude, come off it. Don't you dare start slinging insults just because you think your opinion is more valid than anyone else's. Music is becoming harder and harder to define these days, even within the largely accepted genres like rock, jazz, and classical - I heard bands that blur the lines even between such easily defined boundaries. To say that something definitely isn't screamo, metalcore, or vegetarian Norwegian grindcore is simply asinine, especially when you automatically insult all others who don't hold the same opinion as you. |
to be fair, when you hear what "real" emotional hardcore is and then you hear something that sounds like killswitch engage with keyboards, there is quite a bit of difference, and if you cannot notice the difference, *************.
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06-08-2008, 07:56 AM
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06-08-2008, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by scottblessed to be fair, when you hear what "real" emotional hardcore is and then you hear something that sounds like killswitch engage with keyboards, there is quite a bit of difference, and if you cannot notice the difference, *************. | Heh... this is fun. Riling up the natives, I am!
It is interesting to me that you mention keyboards as being a central to the definition of a particular genre. Does this mean that that rock cannot be made without guitars? Jazz without horns? Classical music without violins? It seems strange to me that if a band is missing a particular instrument, they can no longer be part of said genre and certainly must be something else entirely.
It kind of reminds me of a time when I was kicked out of a punk/ska band for not being "punk" enough. At the time I had long hair, played a green Parker Fly guitar, and had a penchant for wearing Pantera T-shirts. The band decided that they couldn't be punk without every member being totally committed to some vague sense of punk imagery, so I was cut out. Nevermind the fact that I had come in and replaced two of their guitarists, learned all their songs in a week, played shows in front of 700 people, was generally liked by the band and the audiences, and wrote songs that the band dug. It all seems rather silly. | 
06-08-2008, 02:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Big Sound Central | | Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyway, back to the thread at hand: Cowboys Became Folk Heroes were progenitors of screamo in the late 90's, back when it was still being released on tiny labels, when it was still just considered hardcore. They're singles and a split they did with the band Hello Space Cowboy (of which, I can find no information on, and I think might have just been a reformulation of CBFH) are long out of print but you can find them on soul seek if you look hard.
edit: And Circle Takes the Square completely forgot about them.
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06-09-2008, 03:19 PM
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06-09-2008, 04:41 PM
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Oh- and please, Joshua- dance. 
Hmm.. if a screamo thread induces one of our beloved mods to interptetive dance, I guess I can love the stuff. I scream for screamo. 
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06-09-2008, 07:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Inverness, FL | | | Not to start another genre war, but what is screamo?
I'm well aware of what emo is, what metalcore is, grindcore, etc.
But what musically sets screamo apart from any other form of hardcore? | 
06-09-2008, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by powellmacaque Not to start another genre war, but what is screamo?
I'm well aware of what emo is, what metalcore is, grindcore, etc.
But what musically sets screamo apart from any other form of hardcore? | In layman's terms: More screaming, less chugga chugga. Generally.
Beyond that, the only difference is longer band/song names and people getting into fights about bands on internet message boards.
Edit: Actually, there is a bit more to it than that. But it has more to do with the "heritage" of the genre and the bands in it than an actual difference in sound.
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06-10-2008, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Against Will Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyway, back to the thread at hand: Cowboys Became Folk Heroes were progenitors of screamo in the late 90's, back when it was still being released on tiny labels, when it was still just considered hardcore. They're singles and a split they did with the band Hello Space Cowboy (of which, I can find no information on, and I think might have just been a reformulation of CBFH) are long out of print but you can find them on soul seek if you look hard.
edit: And Circle Takes the Square completely forgot about them. | i just ordered that cowboys become folk heroes discography lp last week.
Can't wait for that to arrive.
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06-10-2008, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Strange Heh... this is fun. Riling up the natives, I am!
It is interesting to me that you mention keyboards as being a central to the definition of a particular genre. Does this mean that that rock cannot be made without guitars? Jazz without horns? Classical music without violins? It seems strange to me that if a band is missing a particular instrument, they can no longer be part of said genre and certainly must be something else entirely. |
you mis-read me completely, what I was saying is that people consider Screamo to be something which it is not. Alot of bands these days (Underoath, Still Remains, Bless The Fall) get considered screamo when, they quite simply are not, they are all metal bands. All of them use syths and keyboards i believe. I was just saying that bands who are obviously metal bands get called screamo when they are not.
Screamo is an offshoot of punk and hardcore, and it remains true to its roots. Alot of screamo bands were influenced by bands like Minor Threat, Black Flag, Snapcase, Rites Of Spring etc.
In fact, i forget where I'm even going with this, point is, the topic was started to share your views and recommend some bands to people who maybe are not that familiar with the genre, and you come on here and ruin that for everyone and make it a big debate. Yes it is art as you have previously said, but there is nothing wrong with giving it a name. In my honest opinion, giving something a genre means people are more likely to actually check out a band thats is similiar to there own music tastes. Better for the band, yes?
hahaha, I used to play in a punk/ska band too, and used to get the piss taken out of me by the band members for wearing metal t-shirts. small world.
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