Should Derek and the Dominos be inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

[superbassman2000]

Originally Posted by Machaut

I think that Layla is one of the greatest albums in rock history. There is more raw emotion and more great playing on that album than you will find on 99.9% of rock albums

yes, i agree...and if you don't think layla is raw enough, listen to bell bottom blues...i think that song is raw emotion!

[audiotom]

well Clapton's already in three times (Cream, Yardbirds and solo) and so is Duanne Alman

how about these overlooked people
that are not hip enough for Jan Weiner's popularity hall

Genesis, Yes, Moody Blues, Jethro Tull, Peter Gabriel, Todd Rundgren

it's a shame

[Matt Till]

I selected no, because this was more like a side project for people who are already in the R+RHOF

[Thor]

Originally Posted by audiotom

well Clapton's already in three times (Cream, Yardbirds and solo) and so is Duanne Alman

how about these overlooked people
that are not hip enough for Jan Weiner's popularity hall

Genesis, Yes, Moody Blues, Jethro Tull, Peter Gabriel, Todd Rundgren

it's a shame

If that is correct, then +1.
( I haven't checked the roster. )

But let's face it, whenever you see a 'top whatever' of the last ____ < insert time period > you are always going to see
major gaps on the list. RARHOF, I'm sure, is no different.

[Blackbird]

Originally Posted by Michael Jewels

Are you serious?

My vote would be yes, BTW.

Mike

And I thought Badfinger had a tragic history...

I say yes, but the Dave Clark 5 has to go in too...

[Thor]

Can't have the Dave Clark 5 without Herman's Hermits.

[AaronS]

Derek & the Dominos were a short term interim gig for some superb musicians. I really like Layla, but I don't think this is a Hall of Fame group. Delaney & Bonnie were another great short term band with Clapton's involvment, but again not Hall of Fame group IMHO. OTOH how in the world does my favorite band of all time, Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys, get into the R&RHOF? or Pete Seegar? At least Derek & the Dominos were rock & roll. The selection criteria seems to have nothing to do with rock & roll and everything to do with enticing as wide an audience as possible to the venue.

[Richard Lindsey]

I vote no. Some good stuff but not enough.

[The Golden Boy]

No.

Good album, one really lasting hit, and didn't really blaze any trails.

The point of a "Hall Of Fame" is to be the best of the best. With most any organization, there are unbelievably amazing people in their fields that never get in to their hall of fame.

Aside from a problem of including too many bands, it's also a problem of what defines "rock and roll."

[DHowardAir]

YES. They absolutely should be inducted into the Hall of Fame. They are one of the greatest rock/blues combos to ever unite.

[Hoover]

I think it's important to recognize that the Rock'n'Roll Hall Of Fame -- and, perhaps more importantly, Rock'n'Roll itself -- is more about a cultural phenomenon than it is about music per se.

Do I think Derek & The Dominos "made some of the best music in rock history"? Absolutely not. But I do believe Derek & The Dominos made a significant enough impact on contemporary culture to warrant inclusion in the HoF. That first album is iconic. The song "Layla" is known all over the world, and probably gets played on hundreds (thousands?) of radio stations a day. Any comprehensive History Of Rock could not ignore that band's (brief) existence.

Has nothing to do with whether or not the music's any good, or how long they lasted, or how many units they sold. Their place in the culture of Rock'n'Roll is solid; the HoF is just acknowledgement of that.


btw, this also explains why prog bands never get nominated: The cultural impact of even the best/most famous prog artists is (almost by definition) marginalized.

[BillyRay]

Not before Dire Straits gets in.

[rcarraher]

Originally Posted by moptoptony

*On Jim Gordon, Carl Radle, Duane Allman...*

Yeah, Gordon did kill his mother, but he didn't decapitate her or anything...Christ, no. All he did was stab her three times. (ALL he did?!?)
Gordon was a manic-depressive schizophrenic. He was, even during D&D recording sessions.
He is still alive, though rumors were floating around in the early '90s that he had died of cancer, but correspondants with Gordon claim he is still alive...obviously; how else would they be talking to him?

Carl Radle died of kidney failure in 1980.

We all know what happened to Duane Allman. Eat A Peach.

*On the extended Layla outro...*

I have to disagree with some of you and say that the extension to Layla is better than the other part of the song!

*On longevity as an issue to induction...*

Buddy Holly and Jimi Hendrix both had a relatively short career, yet they are both in the Hall of Fame.

Yes, but Buddy had like 9 number one hits in 18 months, and this in the middle of the One Hit Wonder years, and Hendrix had a sizable body of work, even tho' he died way too early, you could make a case for Jimi just on his postumous releases. Basically, Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs was a "project" as were Derek and the Dominos as a band. I don't think they even toured behind the album (just while the album was being written), they also backed George Harrison on his All Things Must Pass. D&D was basically Delaney and Bonney and Friends, minus Delaney and Bonney, and Allman was basically brought in as a session man, and didn't do the pre album tour. I don't know if I'd induct them as a group, but I think the album, and definitly the song Layla deserves some sort of recognition. It might have been the best of Claptons hard rock/ blues rock stuff.

[rcarraher]

Originally Posted by rcarraher

Yes, but Buddy had like 9 number one hits in 18 months, and this in the middle of the One Hit Wonder years, and Hendrix had a sizable body of work, even tho' he died way too early, you could make a case for Jimi just on his postumous releases. Basically, Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs was a "project" as were Derek and the Dominos as a band. I don't think they even toured behind the album (just while the album was being written), they also backed George Harrison on his All Things Must Pass. D&D was basically Delaney and Bonney and Friends, minus Delaney and Bonney, and Allman was basically brought in as a session man, and didn't do the pre album tour. I don't know if I'd induct them as a group, but I think the album, and definitly the song Layla deserves some sort of recognition. It might have been the best of Claptons hard rock/ blues rock stuff.

One more thing here, when Clapton first put the band tohether, the were called Eric Clapton and Friends, one story has it that the promoter didn't want o introduce another "and Friends" band, and on the spur of the moment, they came up with Del and the Dynamos, Del being a nick name for Clapton. The promoter screwwd up and said derk and the Dominos and it stuck. So, if not for that screw up, and a dearth of "And Friend' bands at the time, Layla would have been just a great Eric Clapton album, and he's in.

[ggunn]

Originally Posted by JimK

I had heard Gordon was doing time...then again, is he even still alive?
As for the rest of the band-
Allman, Radle, Whitlock are deceased, right?

Bobby Whitlock is alive and well and living in Austin, Texas; at least he was a few months ago when I saw him play the Saxon Pub.

[deaf pea]

Originally Posted by mcbassdude

...Didn't Jim Keltner play on those records too?...

No . . .

Originally Posted by mcbassdude

...Wasn't there a band where Gordon and Keltner played together?

Originally Posted by mcbassdude

...Anyone know if Gordon and Keltner played together?

Joe Cocker's tour and double LP "Mad Dogs and Englishmen"

IIRC it was around 1970

[elgecko]

I love Derek & The Dominos but no, in the grand scheme of things I don't believe they've contributed enough to R&R to warrant inclusion.