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02-10-2011, 02:22 AM
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This guy thinks that pursuing a career in music is harmful, and while he doesn't say outright that the government should do something to prevent people from pursuing them, at least he seems to think it makes as much sense as requiring children to go to school. http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/0...ternalism.html
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I suspect we allow harmful acting, music, etc. careers because they raise our society’s status relative to others, and it looks good individually to approve of such activities. Most parents hope it won’t be their kids who pay the price.
| Yeah, that's putting it pretty bluntly. Though I'd say it's more like parents who don't discourage their kids from pursuing music hope their pianist daughter will be able to marry rich, or their guitarist son will marry a model.
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02-10-2011, 02:32 AM
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Which is worse, being a starving artist or being well-fed in a career that crushes your soul a little bit more every day? | 
02-10-2011, 02:36 AM
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Wow... "I can mostly understand wanting to let folks be free"... nope... you can't.
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02-10-2011, 03:15 AM
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02-10-2011, 03:41 AM
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02-10-2011, 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathFromBelow I'm thinking maybe governments should ban ignorance and utter stupidity first... | Can't do that my friend, that would ban all politicians and a lot of the people employed in the professions.
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02-10-2011, 04:09 AM
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02-10-2011, 04:15 AM
| | | | What I think is even more harmful is to forbid people to make any choices that may be harmful to them, making them on the long terme unable to make any choice at all. | 
02-10-2011, 04:18 AM
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02-10-2011, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JoZac21 This article brought to you by Big Brother's crazier older brother. | ^^^
Thats an awesome line lol | 
02-10-2011, 04:59 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NYC | | | Ok - I'll play along w/ his stupidity . . . if this "ban" were to ever take place, you'd find the number of aspiring actors and musicians quadruple! What's better than fame and fortune? Forbidden fame and fortune!
Pathetic! | 
02-10-2011, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JoZac21 This article brought to you by Big Brother's crazier older brother. | Quote:
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02-10-2011, 05:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Saint Augustine, FL | | | The government needs to stay the heck out of our lives and just tend to its business...namely protecting our borders and our people. | 
02-10-2011, 05:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kraków, Polska | | Is this guy really saying anything different from what we all say anytime there's a "should I pursue music as a full-time career" thread? He's just using stronger words like "harmful" and "pay the price". Quote:
Originally Posted by sound of bass How about the arts are just good for the soul! | I was going to say something in response to that, but then I remembered somebody else already said it better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R9ZbY-4q1I
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02-10-2011, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pklima Is this guy really saying anything different from what we all say anytime there's a "should I pursue music as a full-time career" thread? He's just using stronger words like "harmful" and "pay the price".
I was going to say something in response to that, but then I remembered somebody else already said it better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R9ZbY-4q1I |  Love that spongebob clip.
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02-10-2011, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Pacman The US government is the largest single employer of musicians on the earth. | Quite right. So it would be a bit tough discourage that then. | 
02-10-2011, 08:06 AM
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02-10-2011, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Nev375 I wonder if the author has ever asked himself this question...?
Which is worse, being a starving artist or being well-fed in a career that crushes your soul a little bit more every day? | Hey - that's me! But it pays for basses, amps, lessons so that's a trade off I'm willing to make.
Personally, I think the government should keep our highways safe, and bad guys away. That's about it. They should not be in the business of "encouraging" or subsidizing anything else. We're free to encourage ourselves with all the extra money we're not paying in taxes to fund forms of "encouragement" | 
02-10-2011, 08:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chester, Pa.,USA | | | So, is this guy basically saying people should only pursue careers that guarantee success?
Ain't no such thing.
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02-10-2011, 08:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada | | | ...I would be able to get behind the idea of requiring people to pass a standardized test in order to buy a musical instrument. Nothing strenuous, just a basic multiple-choice covering things like the various parts of the instrument in question, some basic questions regarding technique, related equipment (like amps, mikes, etc) and whatnot.
The advantage of that would be that fewer dolts with too much money and not enough passion would go and buy guitars, learn two chords, and then start playing bad shows for no money - meaning, by extension, that it could potentially result in a small, tighter community of better musicians, and potentially even increase the odds of being able to put bread on your table by playing in bars, the way things used to be 40 years ago.
However, as a result of smaller sales figures, prices for gear would skyrocket - potentially negating any perceived benefit.
So the idea of government action in the field is definitely a tough call with a lot of sides to the story. I think things are probably best left as-is.
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