So I'm About To Leave a Tber Negative Feedback (Do I go Thru w It)?

[Quadzilla]

Man, I've never done this before, but I'm about to lave another Tber neg feedback. I bought a bass off of him several weeks ago (maybe a couple of months ago). I got the bass and man, it was totally unplayable. The action was sky high, with buzzing galore. I tried dialing it in best I could, but to no avail.

I contact the Tber and told him about it and I said we could do one of two things:

1 - I would ship the basss back and he would just give me a refund

2 - I could take it to a local tech that I know who is very good and VERY reasonable. Only issue is that he's 30 miles from me.

So he chose option 2 (me take it to the tech). I drove there, the tech got her straight. He said that the neck was severally bowed, but he got it under control after turning it a little for several days and I think he mentioned some heat process to help straighten the neck. He also did some minor fret leveling as some were high. He did me (and this Tber) a favor and only charged $40. I prob spent at least that in gas running 30 mi each way but didn't ask the TBer for a nickel for my time or gas.

So I told this guy says OK and said that he was going to send me a check. Days and days go by, I hear nothing and then finally after many PMs he says he sent the check. Several more days go by and no check. After several other PMs he responds and says that he will have to call his bank. Well that was over a week ago. I've sent him several more PMs asking what his bank said and how he was going to compensate me. Nothing.... No response and he has logged in here almost daily and I'm sure seen my PMs.

So am I at the point where I leave this guy a negative feedback? I've been as patient as I can be and really tried to work with him. I just sent him a PM stating that I was about to leave him a neg if he did not respond and resolve this now. I also don't want this guy leaving me a neg for something that is not my fault. Man, this sucks. Oh, one more thing. Please don't let this one experience discourage you from buying/selling/trading here on TB. It's FAR better than evil bay and all other issue I've had with buying or trading here, I've been able to work out with the seller. Advice???

[west*coast*bass]

It's an unfortunate situation for sure. I have been frustrated at times with the less than ethical practices of some buyers/sellers/traders, most of whom were NOT TB'ers.

My issue is that a negative feedback is really not a big deal to some people. Maybe this person figures that he can explain away the negative feedback in his next transaction and he could care less about you submitting it.

I would be far more upset that I was sold a bass with some pretty serious neck problems than being out the $40 for the setup. Bottom line, the seller should have taken the bass back - gotten it repaired himself then waitied to see if the repair would hold. If it was solid he could have then put the bass back up for sale. Unfortunately, ethics are lost on some people.

[Nino Valenti]

Your feedback speaks for it self. I doubt that one negative on your end prevent anyone from trusting you as a great seller/buyer on TB.

[Eric Perry]

That does suck. Sorry for your crappy transaction! The main problem with the whole feedback system is A) Some people don't give a rat's hoot. And B) They can reciprocate the negative even though there might not be any reason for it.

I'd probably try a few more times to coerce him, and if not... Leave the poor feedback. It sounds like he's certainly earned it!

[Eric Perry]

Originally Posted by Nino Valenti

Your feedback speaks for it self. I doubt that one negative on your end prevent anyone from trusting you as a great seller/buyer on TB.

Agreed.

[Yvon]

you are very patient!
Leave the negative feed back.

[Herrlster]

Hey man, if I said I sent the cheque, then I sent the cheque. Chill dude...



hahaha, just had to do it.


But seriously, that sucks man, I hope the guy smartens up and follows through with the deal.

[Quadzilla]

So he must have read this thread because I just got a PM from him stating this (and I quote):

"i would just like the bass returned an i'll pay for the repairs and shipping."

That was his entire message (kind of lame huh? No explaination or apology).

So now he expects me to go get a box (believe it or not, I'm currently out of boxes), pack it up, and drive to ship it back? So now I have to go through more time and trouble for this guy and for what??? I think I should refuse, don't you all agree or? I could honeslty take or leave the bass at this point, but if I went this route, he would get a bass back with the issues fixed for cheap all thanks to me and all I get is a bunch of my time wasted and lots of frustration..

[Nino Valenti]

Personally, I would get my funds back then return the bass as soon as possible. Live and learn.

[Musiclogic]

Put the price of the box, your time, and the gas into the shipping charges.

[fenderhutz]

I would refuse, it was bum sale to begin with.

I'd be hotter than a hornet if it happened to me and it was undisclosed.

[MJ5150]

If the guy can't send you $40, how is he going to pay you back for the bass?

Keep the bass, hold out for your $40, and leave a negative feedback. People slow about coughing up money should be made known to the forum members before making a deal with him/her.

If you want the $40, get local with the guy. The TB community is most awesome in supporting each other like this. I started a thread about someone who scammed me for $90 on some truck parts. My Inbox was full of people who lived near him that were willing to go to the guys house. So I tell the guy that people are in his town looking for him, and suddenly my money shows up.

If the guy is anywhere near where I live, I'll go by and get your money for you.

-Mike

[WRBass]

How does the bass play now? I've done a lot more than $40 in adjustments, upgrades, etc on my basses. That seems like a good deal.

[Quadzilla]

Originally Posted by WRBass

How does the bass play now? I've done a lot more than $40 in adjustments, upgrades, etc on my basses. That seems like a good deal.

Plays fine, but it should have from the get-go. He never disclosed in the thread that it had significant playability issues. I am a fairly easy-going and understanding person and have received basses with poor setups in the past (and did not have an issue with it), but this was REAL bad... Super high action and buzz city! Truly unplayable when I got it.

[Herrlster]

I say keep the bass and demand the $40 (possibly even more for your time and gas money?)

[pointbass]

I've never had any direct dealings with you, Fred, but you have a very clean rep here at TB, especially considering you're cruising towards 200 transactions under the new system. It's almost impossible to maintain a 100% with that many deals, especially when you consider they have been deals with a bunch of psycho bass players No one is going to think negatively if you get a blemish.

All in all, I agree with Nino .... get your cake back from this guy (plus the additional expenses) and return the axe ...

[Yvon]

I think that even if he refund you and you ship the bass back, you still need to leave negative feed back.

[Poop-Loops]

Err... I'd wait for the money before sending the bass back if that's what you want. Seems like if you send the bass, then you just fixed the guy's bass for him and gave him a ton of cash, for free.

[Slater]

Originally Posted by Yvon

I think that even if he refund you and you ship the bass back, you still need to leave negative feed back.

I agree with Yvon. That's what the Feedback system is for. To inform others as to how TB'rs handle transactions.

I've dealt with Fred, and if he's ready to leave a neg., then the guy probably really deserves it...

[gkbass13]

i would have left the negative feedback as soon as the bass arrived unplayable. if you like it, dont return it and wait for the 40 or so dollars. and absolutely leave a negative feedback!