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Old 01-07-2013, 08:55 PM
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Wow, the Eagles and The Doors are classic rock? I'm sorry but playing those songs with a fake guitar did expose a lot of kids to it.
I'm sorry, but I don't think you understand. Duh they were "exposed" to it. The same way I'm exposed to Gangnam Style when I walk into McDonalds. That doesn't mean I listen to it. Just because they heard it doesn't mean the exposed kids like it or listened to it ever again.
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I had no exposure to rock at all as a child. I got turned on it to it by what my peers were listening to and by trading tapes, etc. Video games, youtube.....it's the new tape trading.
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You are arguing for my point.....Keeping a tape from your friend or getting a youtube link from your friend is still getting influenced by friends/family. And I don't know what you mean by video games. Besides the few good songs from guitar hero and VROCK station from Grand Theft Auto, I haven't heard much rock in video games.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:59 PM
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Playing Love Me Two Times and Hotel California with a fake guitar did not turn kids to classic rock.
I personally know 5 (maybe more) people who got turned on to classic rock by Guitar Hero and Rock Band. I think it's a great thing. With modern media shoving radio crap down our throats 24/7 it's nice to see people get exposed to some great music from another generation.
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Speaking on behalf of my son, once he was "exposed" to a lot of this music via video games (rockband, guitar hero to clarify), he started digging up more of it on youtube so he could learn more about it. It makes me sad that out of all those children exposed to it, he's the only one that got addicted. I guess he is just weak that way.
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I'm 18 and I would give anything to go back in time and grow up in the 60s and 70s
I grew up during that time period, played in garage bands and had a great time watching the youth culture change. It truely was Sex, Drugs, and Rock n' Roll, at least here in Southern California. The best part was, unlike today, any STD back then could be easily cured with a little penicillin.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:04 PM
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My son also got "exposed" to Social Distortion via Guitar Hero and he loves them. Maybe I should encourage him to stay in one genre of music. Classic Punk maybe?
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I'm 18 and I would give anything to go back in time and grow up in the 60s and 70s
Guess you're not a minority. They didn't have such a great time in the 60's..
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You are arguing for my point.....Keeping a tape from your friend or getting a youtube link from your friend is still getting influenced by friends/family. And I don't know what you mean by video games. Besides the few good songs from guitar hero and VROCK station from Grand Theft Auto, I haven't heard much rock in video games.
Demolition Racer for Playstation 1 had Fear Factory and other hard rock songs on there. The single BIGGEST reason I started listening to Fear Factory. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater had MANY SONGS from actual bands. Punk, Ska, and others....... Granted video games generally have their own soundtrack without copyrighted Rock songs, it's still prevalent though.

All I am saying is don't discredit the affect of video games and influencing the youth of today with music.

In 20 years, you will tell your kids you remember hearing "Gangnam Style" at McDonalds.
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Interesting post. I guess we have to look at why its called Classic Rock. With Jazz, standards is a must to learn to develop your skills. Songs in the 40's and 50's are played and practised to play through changes.
In addition, a young friend of mine stated to me, rock is pretty much gone. I said are you crazy there are many rock artist. He than stated yea but they are old. Now we know there are newer Rock bands but is there some truth to that. Many years or not that many there were more rock bands. Something to consider is that with the age of computers we now are able to vary our interest in music and there is more of a fusion to music going on. . But you have to admit, not entirely but mostly when you walk into a rock club classic rock dominates, with covers to rolling stones, ACDC, etc. Now I did say not entirely.
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I find this to be ridiculously insulting. I've never met a person who said that guitar hero and rock band changed what music they liked. I'm 20 and have only ever listened to classic rock. Real classic rock, Zeppelin, The Who, The Guess Who, The Boss, not Nirvana. It has nothing to do with Itunes or video games....
Oh? Well, I find your post to be ridiculously under thought.

(A) of course! Silly me! Every teenager grew up just like you with all of the brains, good looks, charm, and most importantly independence in the world with that classic "I don't give a !@#$" attitude. Man... I'm sorry dude.

(B) Your 20! Woo! And... I'm 21. Now, if my stupid little brain can comprehend simple math, I'm... let's see... carry the 12, under the 4, jump over the hole, around the loop, and into the... ONE year older than you! Wait... when these games came out, I was past my IMPRESSIONABLE years. Hell, I was in college! Yet me and my friends did have fun picking up a few favorite bands from the game and guess what! Me and my brother (ca. 1996) picked up bass and drums because of the game! (I'm not going to mention that all of the songs he learned first were from the game, or that he and all of his friends asked for iPods that Christmas, or that they all downloaded EVERY song from the game to play on them... nope, that's "ridiculously insulting"). Now, it seems to me that everyone at my college and around my age in general still liked Brittney, NIN, Backstreet Boys, Nirvana, RHCP, RATM, etc. But everyone at my brother and sister's soccer games, parties, etc. were listening to The Who, Pearl Jam, AC/DC, etc. ... bands from those games.

(C) Most kids have dropped those bands now (but many of those you actually play an instrument didn't because they recognize the creativity and level of dedication to music bands possessed then). Why? Because it was a fad. Listening to your dad's music was cool. What do they listen to now? Ke$ha, Lady Gaga, Bieber, PSY (*sigh* makes me sad), etc. because they are the "in" thing ATM. If you don't believe me, go look at the vids on YouTube. These vids are getting 10 times as much as some "Classic Rock" songs are in their lifetime on YouTube!

(D) Of course, people are totally going to go around saying, "Hey [INSERT YOUR NAME HERE]! I totally get my musical tastes from video games! I love video games and like the sense of accomplishment I get from playing a fake instrument to songs my dad grew up on!" just like you would tell your significant other the chick behind her is smokin'!!!

Now, since you've accused me of insulting your age bracket, realize I'M IN THE SAME ONE and that you aren't a teen right now... who knew?!
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:40 PM
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I find this to be ridiculously insulting. I've never met a person who said that guitar hero and rock band changed what music they liked.
Sorry, Guitar Hero and Rock Band absolutely changed what many teenagers (and older) like. This is evident in iTunes sales, radio playlists, YouTube, etc. 100% fact, not fiction.

I will agree with you that Rock Band and Guitar Hero drove more interest in 80's and 90's metal and grunge and not quite as much 70s classic rock though.
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All I know is, we play "Stealin'," and 20ish patrons shout out war whoops like it was just released.

That song is from July, 1973.
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I find this to be ridiculously insulting. I've never met a person who said that guitar hero and rock band changed what music they liked. I'm 20 and have only ever listened to classic rock. Real classic rock, Zeppelin, The Who, The Guess Who, The Boss, not Nirvana. It has nothing to do with Itunes or video games....
Don't know why this would be "ridiculously insulting" my friend. The guitar player in both my bands, Joe, is a guitar teacher who most of his students are teenagers. Joe & I are both around 40 yrs old & grew up on 70's & 80's hard rock & heavy metal. Joe has had many students come to him wanting to learn songs that we grew up with because they heard it on Guitar Hero.

These video games use to scare me because I feared kids would spend more time playing the game than learning to play a real instrument. I saw an interview with Geddy Lee & he said the same thing, but said that what he has found is that Guitar Hero has influenced kids to pick up real instruments & learn how to play for real.

I don't care how someone gets interested in music, just as long as they do.
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I'm 19 and my guitarist is 22; we've been playing classic rock and blues together since I was 15. I never played Guitar Hero, but it does seem to have played a role in the resurgence of younger people who are interested in rock music.

Some of my taste in music came from my mom, though I discovered groups like Zeppelin, Rush, and Yes on my own and got her back into them. A little down the road, my drummer was a huge influence on my musical preferences...he really helped widen my horizons. From there, I discovered a lot of deep blues, jazz, and even classical from tracing back the roots and influences of the musicians I was listening to.
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Well I'm a teen and I like Beatles, led zeppelin, red hot chili peppers, etc. nothing wrong with liking old music!
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:31 PM
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As a 20-year-old (and as it was when I was still technically a teenager) is that it's not so much liking old peoples' music as it is liking GOOD music. The music of today is all horrible... it's made for regular people, who don't know anything about playing music. So young musicians listen to music that rocks.
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As a 20-year-old (and as it was when I was still technically a teenager) is that it's not so much liking old peoples' music as it is liking GOOD music. The music of today is all horrible... it's made for regular people, who don't know anything about playing music. So young musicians listen to music that rocks.
Exactly, it's made for people who LISTEN, not PLAY. Since that number has drastically increased since, iPod, YouTube, mp3's, etc. we can look forward to a future where music is centered around fans who think root notes are part of a magical music tree.
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I got into different music & bands from different avenues. Mom said I use to dance to Elvis when I was a baby. At 5, I was interested in Kiss before I ever heard them. My sister bought me my first Kiss album when & was 7, been hooked on rock & roll ever since. I also got turned onto other music from peers. And when MTV came along, back when they actually played music videos, that turned me on to a lot of music. I'm sure if I was a teenager today, YouTube & video games would also turn me on to some stuff.

And as for video games, yes, even as an adult I've been turned on to different music & bands from the Madden games through the years. Avenge Seven Fold for example. Bat Country was on a Madden game way before they became as popular as they are now. That's how I got turned on to them.

There are a lot of outlets out there. Why limit yourself to friends & family to turn you on to something?
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Actually these days it makes me happy to know some children/teens want to listen to music, recorded with instruments, sung without auto-tune. An artist that honed their craft over the years of playing gigs, etc.

Primetime/reality TV seems to have led many young people to believe that a musical artist comes from winning a popularity contest. Any contest where one person can vote multiple times is not a democratic system.
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