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Old 09-15-2009, 03:24 AM
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On March 9, 2007, Roger Waters performed his famed show before more than 25000 people at the Simón Bolívar Park in Bogotá, my country's capital city. Before that day I've never attended a concert since I don't like crowds, but I wasn't going to let the Pink Floyd show leave my country without seeing it. I didn't comment about the experience because, although I could see and hear in person a show that I've never thought I would be able to see, the people surrounding me didn't understand that Pink Floyd music is not for screaming and singing uproariously (even the riffs and solos) and my feelings at the venue were a mixture of happiness and annoyance.

What most people didn't know then (including me, of course) is that the concert was being "unofficially" captured on video. I don't know how they did it, but some guys managed to get (almost) the full show recorded with the following specifications:

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Pro-shot video. Direct from the production crew. Several concert cameras, including on-screen videoclips.
Audio straight from the monitor track.
2h 39m 11s DVD-video weighting 2,39 Gb recorded on a Samsung Pleomax white label DVD.

Video: MPEG-2 video at 352X480 pixels, 29.97 fps. 4:3, NTSC
Audio: 2 channels stereo at 48.000 hz
The sound is direct from the mixing desk and has the “click track” (metronome). Despite having 2 channels, this happens to be a low-volume non-stereo mix for sound monitoring. Rather seems a monoaural fed. No stereo effects can be heard.

This “first generation source DVD” was bought somewhere in Bogotá on April 2nd 2007. It has a generic stand alone recorder menu with no buttons for track or chapter selection. The only title track was divided into 28 chapters of 5 minutes each.

The great fault of this DVD was the absence of image for the first songs of the show: there were some 25 minutes or so of black screen.

The other fault is the lack of the old music introduction.

RESTORING THE VIDEO
On March 9th 2007, Roger Waters presented his “Dark Side of the Moon Live” tour in Bogotá. A professional recording of this show was made. However, the unofficially released film of the concert lacked video for the first songs of the show. It also lacked the radio introduction, and the beginning of some songs.

In this equally unofficial DVD release the video has been restored using footage from the film crew, interspersed with fan shots and cell phone videos, while preserving the original audio and video from the first generation source film. The full introduction was also restored, and some other patches were made.

Given the diverse nature of the video sources, image quality may vary noticeably where fixing was made.
And this DVD was made available to the public for free (really for free. A store in Bogotá tried to sell it and the "producers" warned people against them). I've just got my copy and wanted to share an excerpt with all of you, just to offer a glimpse of how things are on stage on such a huge spectacle. Of course, the combination of sounds and images is what makes this show so demanding in terms of timing. Maybe old news for many of you, but I think most of you will find this material interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pGnVL7FrOU&fmt=22

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Very cool, indeed! It's great to hear the monitor track, too.
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So interesting how bigger artists like Roger, who have a lot of sequenced and pre-recorded audio onstage like to do it. I've played with sequenced stuff before (didn't have the counts though), and while it's easy enough to do I always felt like it sucked the creativity out of the performance.

Thanks for posting this though, very interesting indeed.
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