Time to buy a bigger amp.

Jack · #1 01-30-2005, 04:45 AM

Remember the good old days when bassists only had to cut through at most a 100W full stack? Those days are over.

Granted, its solid state, but still dont tell your guitarists.

Dan Molina · #2 01-30-2005, 04:49 AM

This is stupid!!!! Guitarists don't need that much power.

Hurley · #3 01-30-2005, 04:59 AM

Fender's response to the Marshall Mode Four...

I don't get it. It's a numbers thing... watts = coolness.

I don't like the Marshall at all. Why solid state? I understand who this is being marketed towards, but why not make a 250+ watt all-tube head? That would be impressive.

Dan Molina · #4 01-30-2005, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurley000

Fender's response to the Marshall Mode Four...

I don't get it. It's a numbers thing... watts = coolness.

I don't like the Marshall at all. Why solid state? I understand who this is being marketed towards, but why not make a 250+ watt all-tube head? That would be impressive.

yet more expensive than their target demographic could afford.

Bard2dbone · #5 01-30-2005, 07:13 AM

Yeah, but what sane guitar player(oxymoron?) needs more than say 50 watts into two 12's for a club gig. I cringe every time I see a guitar player with a full stack facing a club that holds maybe a hundred people if you squeeze in tight and grease up the last few.

I much prefer having a smaller rig for stage volume and letting the PA push the volume.

**IvanMike** · #6 01-30-2005, 07:28 AM

the really funny thing is this.........

the sound that most guitar players crave when using an all tube amp (the only way to go for guitar IMO) is acheived by turning up until the power amp tubes just start to distort. this geneally happens at a pretty loud setting. for most gigs, a 25-50watt amp thru 1 twelve will be way more than loud enough at this setting.

now you get a guy who brings a 100 watt head with a 4x12 or maybe two 4x12 cabs. one of two things happens. either there's no way he can turn up to the setting where he gets the ideal sound without getting kicked out instantly, OR he just says screw it and turns up impossibly loud.

the 100 watt super lead and 4x12 cabs were designed to be used in STADIUMS where the guitar might have to rely entirely upon its own amp rather than the PA

Figjam · #7 01-30-2005, 08:24 AM

I dislike large guitar amps, they are just,not needed. My gutiarist just bought a 100 watt fender 2x12 combo, and it is damn loud. Its plenty competition for my 300 watt halfstack.

Hurley · #8 01-30-2005, 10:29 AM

Replying to myself to clarify....

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Originally Posted by Hurley000

I understand who this is being marketed towards...

I know what age group their demographic is, and the size of their wallets.

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Originally Posted by Hurley000

...but why not make a 250+ watt all-tube head?

Of course there is no need/market for anything like this. I dislike playing with Mesa and Marshall halfstacks, and those are "only" 100 watters. I'm just sayin'... for total amp overkill, it'd be cool.

FUNKonthewall · #9 01-30-2005, 10:52 AM

It's a good thing both of the guitarists in my band refuse to play without tubes.

Timbo · #10 01-30-2005, 12:26 PM

and yet it still manages to be 40 lbs lighter than my 400 watt bass amp. .

JonTheBassGuy · #11 01-30-2005, 05:30 PM

That thing should be banned. I have a hard enough time hearing my bass over my friends 60 watt stack. 550 watts, whats the point of the bassist? to look cool leaning against his 1500 watt huge stack that cant be heard?

Dan Molina · #12 01-30-2005, 06:47 PM

My guitarist showed interest in a pre/power amp setup. I kicked him.

**WillPlay4Food** · #13 01-30-2005, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by From Fender's Website

Truth be told … The first public audience to witness the mind-numbing, speaker-testing beast that is the Metalhead, was none other than our local authorities. After firing it up and delivering a few gut-wrenching power chords, car AND building alarms started sounding off throughout the complex where our R&D department resides – spurring the police to hightail it to our parking lot! Needless to say, we had some explaining to do …

How totally cool is that? If I were a 16 year old guitar player, this setup would be the Holy Grail.

Sounds like this setup was inspired by the beginning of Back to the Future.

Brendan · #14 01-30-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WillPlay4Food

How totally cool is that? If I were a 16 year old guitar player, this setup would be the Holy Grail.

Sounds like this setup was inspired by the beginning of Back to the Future.

Right up until you're fined according to a residential noise ordinance. Then it sucks donkey.

**WillPlay4Food** · #15 01-30-2005, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendan

Right up until you're fined according to a residential noise ordinance. Then it sucks donkey.

I don't know what the laws are like down in God's Waiting Room (all those old folks in FL probably go to bed around what, 7PM?) but up here I'm allowed to make whatever noise I want until 10PM.

Tym2cu_bass · #16 01-30-2005, 08:35 PM

omg... if people start buying that for their guitars... then... us bassists will have to declare bankruptsy to continue playing!