TOOL really is unoriginal...

[d8g3jdh]

Because after finding this, it makes me wonder.

Sounds like the next best thing to an exact copy. It wouldn't be so bad were it not for the fact that Maynard is really on a high horse about bands copying other bands. Hypocrite.

[thoughtpolice]

Maybe you wouldn't think so harshly if you were a little older and coukd see the 20 other copy bands that got there start sounding like tool, over the last 12 years; I guess that would of made you 5 years old....lol.. .

sorry but this one example is a poor way of getting a tool bashing thread started.....

[Trevorus]

Eh, I never liked tool that much anyways.

[agreatheight]

I heard the similarities in those songs when Lateralus came out. I think it's more coincidence than direct lift. And I still think Tool rocks.

[Figjam]

Yup, whoever made that website clearly has more musical talent than Tool, and what they are saying is justified.

[d8g3jdh]

Originally Posted by thoughtpolice

Maybe you wouldn't think so harshly if you were a little older and coukd see the 20 other copy bands that got there start sounding like tool, over the last 12 years; I guess that would of made you 5 years old....lol.. .

sorry but this one example is a poor way of getting a tool bashing thread started.....

Ok, first off, I like TOOL. 10,000 days is getting worn out I play it so much. But I had always considered them to be very original, and this to me sounds like a lift. I still like them.

My issue is with Maynard being a hypocrite and putting himself on a high horse denouncing all those other bands while not being much better.

[jeff_bass28]

Originally Posted by agreatheight

I heard the similarities in those songs when Lateralus came out. I think it's more coincidence than direct lift. And I still think Tool rocks.

+1

On a side note--ever notice how "Twist & Shout" and "La Bamba" start off the same? They're both great songs, who cares which one got "ripped off!"

[Dan1el]

If you were really to claim that Tool is copying other peoples work, Ithink you should come up with more than one track and perhaps they would have copied more than just the guitars... Lateralis start is just an introanyway, maybe Tool did on purpose even...? who knows.---

[mettec]

Ozzy said in the movie"The Decline of the Western Civilization Part 2, The Metal Years" That everyone copies someone! He is correct. There are and have been millions of bands in the world and of those maybe less then 100,000 have been signed or have some wide popularity in modern history. Therefore, if we hear of a group that is well known or signed, how do we know that some band in the world years before didn't sound the same but either never got popular or didn't try to be signed. There is only so much originality that can be really called original sounding. Certain bands have signature sounds (Tool, Disturbed, Nickelback, Etc...) You know from the first notes that who the band is. Other groups do sound very much alike that's because that's what the record companies see as money makers because someone started a certain style or sound and know that it sells and others want in on the action. So the record company signs a bunch of groups that have the ( In Thing ) going on and test to see which ones fail and which succeed. The top selling groups get longer contracts more money until that style fades or the band just does not sell to the public eye. Just my 2 cents.st my 2 cents.

[thoughtpolice]

Originally Posted by Scott Zoltok

My issue is with Maynard being a hypocrite and putting himself on a high horse denouncing all those other bands while not being much better.

Maynard is no more a hypocrite then everyone else in the music biz; but I guess it's OK for you to critisize him.

[thoughtpolice]

Originally Posted by jeff_bass28

+1

On a side note--ever notice how "Twist & Shout" and "La Bamba" start off the same? They're both great songs, who cares which one got "ripped off!"

sounds a lot like The Rascals "good lovin' " too .... who came first

[Marcus]

Originally Posted by Scott Zoltok

Because after finding this, it makes me wonder.

Sounds like the next best thing to an exact copy. It wouldn't be so bad were it not for the fact that Maynard is really on a high horse about bands copying other bands. Hypocrite.

I'm sure Maynard is reading this and crying right now.

Well done.

[FrigginChris]

i'm guessing it's just a coincidence. i "ripped off" the chorus for metallica's "no remorse" note for note in one of my old bands without even hearing the song before! (i was late getting into metallica's older stuff)

[Vorago]

Hmm, I have more problems with Tool doing the same album twice than them ripping off other bands..

[d8g3jdh]

Originally Posted by thoughtpolice

Maynard is no more a hypocrite then everyone else in the music biz; but I guess it's OK for you to critisize him.

Well, I don't see why not, I mean, I don't have his musical talent, or his success or fame or legions of fans, but I don't put myself on a high horse above all the other musicians around me when I'm no different. It would be like me shaming someone for not keeping up with their schoolwork while I fail to keep up myself.

Originally Posted by Marcus Alan

I'm sure Maynard is reading this and crying right now.

Well done.

I'm guessing that the point of this post is that Maynard couldn't care less because he's rich and famous. I couldn't care if Maynard couldn't care, I'm just saying that he shouldn't put himself up on a pedestal. It won't change anything, but I found it interesting and thought others might too. Judging by the number of TOOL fans who are probably foaming at the mouth right now, I must have been wrong.

My god TOOL fans, you guys get really uppety when someone is so bold as to think that they aren't as great as you think they are. Sheesh.

And I suppose this could be a coincidence, I just find it unlikely since TOOL, a fairly progressive band, has probably heard most of Rush's songs, since Rush is a major influence on most progressive music. But I suppose I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. It does lessen my opinion of Maynard, and of TOOL's originality.

[Supergroup]

Nice try, but Tool is still one of the most original rock bands ever. I hope you can sleep better tonight knowing you just sound more like an ass rather than hero. LOL!

[Supergroup]

I think you should be talking about Adam Jones rather than Maynard. I can't remember the last time I saw Keenan in a Guitar Player magazine. Either way, nice try.

[Josh Ryan]

Also weak.

If you bother to look, you can find similarities between artists anywhere.

[Marcus]

Originally Posted by Scott Zoltok

Well, I don't see why not, I mean, I don't have his musical talent, or his success or fame or legions of fans, but I don't put myself on a high horse above all the other musicians around me when I'm no different. It would be like me shaming someone for not keeping up with their schoolwork while I fail to keep up myself.

I'm guessing that the point of this post is that Maynard couldn't care less because he's rich and famous. I couldn't care if Maynard couldn't care, I'm just saying that he shouldn't put himself up on a pedestal. It won't change anything, but I found it interesting and thought others might too. Judging by the number of TOOL fans who are probably foaming at the mouth right now, I must have been wrong.

My god TOOL fans, you guys get really uppety when someone is so bold as to think that they aren't as great as you think they are. Sheesh.

And I suppose this could be a coincidence, I just find it unlikely since TOOL, a fairly progressive band, has probably heard most of Rush's songs, since Rush is a major influence on most progressive music. But I suppose I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. It does lessen my opinion of Maynard, and of TOOL's originality.

Actually, I don't like Tool. At all.

Congratulations, you think less of Tool.

[Pacman]

There's nowhere this thread can go but downhill.