Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Miscellaneous [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Miscellaneous [BG] Music-related discussion, not specific to the bass or any other forum


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-17-2007, 07:24 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
"Tricks" of professional singers?

Sign in to disble this ad
Hey guys we're trying to really tighten up our vocals and I was thinking about all the stuff that is available for singers. A few things that came to mind were

1) In Ear Monitors - Much more effective than Floor Wedges for helping a singer hear themselves and sing on key

2) Reverb/Delay - Make the singer's voice sound more full and cooler

2) Pitch Correction - I know this is available on recording software, but is it available real-time? Do people use these?

Anything else you guys can think of?
__________________
Gun control is like fighting drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to buy cars.
  #2  
Old 01-17-2007, 07:33 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Yuma, Az
Yes, real-time pitch correction has been available in a hardware version longer than software plugins have been available. Antares, T.C. Helicon, and Eventide all make rackmount vocal processors with pitch correction. Britney Spears tours with 4 Antares Auto-Tuners.

Problem is, they need to be programmed properly, and they're expensive. I'm not sure if they still rely on a melody being preprogrammed or if they automatically detect the proper note yet. Real-time software isn't, really. It adds to your computer's latency, and can look ahead at the signal. The resulting delay is too long for live usage.

All the stuff you listed helps, but really, a good singer through a good microphone is the #1 way to get good vocals live. Practice a lot and take voice lessons. The real "tricks" proffesional singers use can only be taught by a vocal coach working with you one on one, IME.
__________________
Christian Praise & Worship Bassist Club Member #371, Ibanez BTB Club #16, Headless Club #11
Quote:
Originally Posted by john turner View Post
4 strings were enough for jaco.
  #3  
Old 01-17-2007, 08:33 PM
Pacman's Avatar
Layin' Down Time

Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
Supporting Member
In ear monitors are great - and make singing much easier.

Reverb/delay in monitors (IMO) make you sing "lazy", because they make you sound better. The biggest thing is to sing with a piano, and sing LOTS of intervals.

....at least, that's worked for every band I've ever been in. (Including my own vocals)
__________________
Groove is Everything
Jon Packard

Roscoe #6181/#6259/#D010/#D049

Quartus on Facebook

my photography website


Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithBMI View Post
Pacman. He serves out nice warm portions of kickass.
  #4  
Old 01-17-2007, 09:06 PM
Registered User

Endorsing: Ampeg
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Apopka, FL
1. I know in ears can help you hear yourself better, but I find them annoying. Kind of like using an Ipod to hear yourself.

2. Reverb/delay in the monitors might give you warm fuzzies, but they do nothing to help you sing in tune, and can sometimes cause you to sing out of tune because of the effects disguising the note.

3. Auto-tuning rack gear is strictly for wussies.
__________________
Ampeg Portaflex Club #1
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:32 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.