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08-06-2007, 04:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia | | | the trooper realy that hard?
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I dont understand why everyone thinks it requires skill to lay the trooper, sure its fast but other than that its basic. you only need to focus on your right hand because our left is doing nothing complicated.
so why do people find it so hard. It was one of the first songs i learnt to play. |
08-06-2007, 04:59 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London UK | | Perhaps most people don't have the mad skills that you do? 
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08-06-2007, 05:05 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia | | | lol nice one. Trust me i am not one to brag about my skills i am in no way that good, there is plenty i cant do i do not consider myself that good more average for a beginner. |
08-06-2007, 05:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London UK | | | Well, perhaps its worth considering on what basis you think "everyone" thinks it is hard. Have you actually asked "everyone"? Probably not. So maybe its only a few people who think that its hard and you took that to be everyone?
Food for thought.
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08-06-2007, 05:11 AM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | The Trooper is a metal classic and pretty much the paragoon of Steve Harris's style so it's a song many beginners learn to play. It's a mandatory step that requires a bit of skill but it isn't a difficult song, never heard this. |
08-06-2007, 05:27 AM
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Starship Trooper by Yes...maybe... 
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08-06-2007, 05:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Texas | | | Not musically hard, but it requires stamina, dexterity and accuracy. |
08-06-2007, 05:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boca Raton, Florida | | | I learned most of Maidens catalog on the drums, Ive been in bands that played metal back in the 80's. Most of the stuff I was familiar with stuck in my head so when I started playing bass, it was easier for me to learn the bass parts. If I was unfamiliar with Maiden, I can see that a beginner would find it difficult to play. Most intermediate bassist would find it less difficult to play correctly
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08-06-2007, 06:08 AM
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now.. REMEMBERING it, thats another kettle of fish.
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08-06-2007, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by dlloyd  | I hated all that 2nd wave of Brit metal - avoided it like the plague! 
I grew up with Led Zep and Deep Purple - the later stuff just sounds like dull imitations... 
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08-06-2007, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield I hated all that 2nd wave of Brit metal - avoided it like the plague!
I grew up with Led Zep and Deep Purple - the later stuff just sounds like dull imitations... | 
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08-06-2007, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield I hated all that 2nd wave of Brit metal - avoided it like the plague!
I grew up with Led Zep and Deep Purple - the later stuff just sounds like dull imitations... | Each to their own.
I listened to Iron Maiden a lot when I was a kid... Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple was stuff your Dad listened to... and that was back in the mid-eighties. |
08-06-2007, 06:56 AM
| | | | We added it to the set recently: Left hand is a yawn. Right hand takes a bit of stamina and would cause problems for some players.
Getting a gallop like that is a right hand technique in itself. I know Harris does it with two fingers, but I chose to go with three - not a technique I'm particulary strong at, but I knew that when I got it down it would be easiest, and it would be another "tool in the bag".
It took a week or so to get the TECHNIQUE down, but once that was in the bag the song is very easy. It's no different to if I had to play something with a lot of slap - it's not that the song might be difficult, but it could take me some time to get my slapping up to spec before I could really tackle the song.
Easy song. Tricky right hand technique.
Ian
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08-06-2007, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dlloyd Each to their own.
I listened to Iron Maiden a lot when I was a kid... Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple was stuff your Dad listened to... and that was back in the mid-eighties. |
Well by the 80s I was playing in post-punk "New Wave" bands and the whole punk phenomenon, had made this kind of metal decidely uncool!
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08-06-2007, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield Well by the 80s I was playing in post-punk "New Wave" bands and the whole punk phenomenon, had made this kind of metal decidely uncool! | Nonsense. It was almost as cool as playing with Star Wars figures. Especially with the scary monsters on the record covers.
We used to go down the building site near my home and throw rocks at each others' Action Men (that's what GI Joe was called in the UK), with Number of the Beast blaring out from a ghetto blaster powered with 10 size C batteries. I remember crying when the leg broke off mine... |
08-06-2007, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield Well by the 80s I was playing in post-punk "New Wave" bands and the whole punk phenomenon, had made this kind of metal decidely uncool! | See if you can spot Bruce in his New Wave band from the 80's. 
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08-06-2007, 08:01 AM
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08-06-2007, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield That's from your own photobucket album - so I can only presume it is your own band circa the 80s!! | Circa the 80's I was young enough to be your grandson!
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08-06-2007, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield Well by the 80s I was playing in post-punk "New Wave" bands and the whole punk phenomenon, had made this kind of metal decidely uncool! | Actually Iron Maiden was formed as an alternative to all the punk bands in the UK but I don't recall seeing any of the punk bands from that era selling out stadiums and putting out multi platinum albums or having a 30 year career. Uncool indeed. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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