Very disappointing when TBers try to make more than they should on a sale

[rimbaud]

Originally Posted by C.Linton

As simplistic as it may be, but if you don't like the price, you don't have to buy it. (Has someone already said this?)

+ 1000000 ...as Brad Johnson also....

Seriously, what's that stupid "bass market moralizing" attempt ? if you want to moralize Wall Street, the London City or the CAC 40 (sorry so french... ), yeah do it, cos' those are really stealers, so bankers too... their goal is really to f*** you out (am I paranoid ? nooooooo !!! )

Your bank cost too much? ther's another one right next door... this bass cost too much? there's another one on another website, simple.... Your girlfriend is too ugly? replace it !!! lol
But ... really.... are TBers stealers ???

[rimbaud]

If you want my girlfriend for $50, I'm ok too..... but beware, that may cost much to maintain as time goes by

[CrewsControl]

I'm disappointed in TBers who won't buy my bass for sale at a price the OP says I should sell it for. I just wanted to sell it on to someone else without the hassle of eBay; I enjoyed it and got value from owning it already. I don't need the money, per se, but even at half the price I paid for it, there were no takers. I'm looking at you, OP. Why didn't you buy my bass at a price that was a steal? Or my pedals?

[cnltb]

Originally Posted by SBassman

I get very disappointed when I see fellow TBers try to make Much more than they should on a sale.

When a sale happens at TB, it should be like selling to family.
Meaning, giving a superb, almost-give-it-away price.

Any time I have sold things here, I have sold them at Far Less the price I paid. It's the only way I know how.

I see people here occasionally buying something, and then trying to flip it for the original purchase price, or, sometimes, more than it. N.G.

If they get what they ask for it's just good business sense I think.
Not a problem for me whatsoever. No one is forced to buy I recon.

[TRichardsbass]

I am with Brad.

I rarely flip things here but I have found some killer stuff on CL cleaned it up and sold it here for a lot more. Still less then its worth but large profit.

The classifieds are that. Where you sell things. The rest of the forum is for all the love.

[troy mcclure]

I price things on TB cheaper than I do on ebay as I don't have to pay fees other than paypal. That being said, everything has a value to someone. The buyer and the seller decide that. I normally set a price that if it doesn't sell, I would rather keep the item than sell it. I do feel a certain moral obligation to TB members not to list gear that is not up to par, I do unload that stuff on ebay but describe to the best of my ability.

[johnson79]

For the most part I think folks on TB price things very fairly and are honest about the condition.

Not sure how being involved in an online forum dictates giving things away for less than fair market value.

[spade2you]

Methinks TBers are a little spoiled on getting good deals. I don't sell often, but it wasn't uncommon to see ultra low ball offers for about half the selling price.

[Marley's Ghost]

Originally Posted by hibachiduck

Caveat emptor.

every day
everywhere
every time

/thread

[Unprofessional]

Nobody's forcing a seller to accept what he/she considers to be a "lowball" offer. Nobody's forcing a buyer to pay what he/she considers to be a "high" price.
If the buyer and seller agree on a price and the item is exactly as it's described, then it's a fair deal.
If you don't like "gear flippers" then don't buy the stuff they're offering for sale.
The expectation of some sort of TB Subsidy for GAS is both laughable and telling.

[Kevin aka Kebo]

Um, no..... No dog in this fight as I've never sold an item on TB for the simple reason im a retailer... As long as the description lives up to the item, anyone anywhere is entitled to earn what the market will bare. Im friends with many of you folks and honestly, none of you owe me anything and vice-versa... Give away, this isnt 1968 Haight Ashbury...

[lyla1953]

I'm always nervous until I hold in my my own hands and see with my own eyes - at the end of the day I'm the only one who determines what is acceptable or not to me. If the money of big enough I go get it, or shop locally and have guaranteed recourse. If not I don't buy unless I've pre negotiated a "problem" into the price paid or I'll buy else wear to obtain that assurance - even if it comes at a premium - my peace of mind has a monetary value. The Romans knew a little about commerce - Let the buyer beware. Pretty good advice.
As for flipping for a profit? Thats up to the seller and who they choose to sell to and the buyer and who they choose to buy from.

[BluesMan845]

Originally Posted by SBassman

I get very disappointed when I see fellow TBers try to make Much more than they should on a sale.

When a sale happens at TB, it should be like selling to family.
Meaning, giving a superb, almost-give-it-away price.

Any time I have sold things here, I have sold them at Far Less the price I paid. It's the only way I know how.

I see people here occasionally buying something, and then trying to flip it for the original purchase price, or, sometimes, more than it. N.G.

It's nice that you find yourself in a position to "almost-give-it-away". Most musicians probably don't find themselves in as fortunate a position. I know when I've sold stuff on TB, I am usually doing so to purchase something else that I wanted or needed. I wasn't looking to get top dollar like I would have on an ebay sale or local sale but I was looking to get a fair price that would help me get my next piece of gear. The nice thing about selling on TB is we have a somewhat safe and controlled environment with a rating system in place, not that we take a loss on our gear we want to sell.

I would be personally offended if you were to tell me I should sell a piece of my gear for far less than it was worth. It's a free market. If you want to give your gear away, good for you and the player lucky enough to score the item you're selling. Don't expect them to do the same though when it comes time to sell it again if they don't want it.

[96tbird]

When you cruise the classifieds here you regularly see others commenting and bumping the ad. That's a sure sign that the price is fair. What if the sellers bass playin daddy gave him the gear. Free. Then he should give it away free? No he should sell it for a fair price.

I got a good deal on my 1962 Jazz. I could sell it at twice the price. If i did sell it, i would sell it at twice the price. It was about 400 bucks new in 1962. I have instructed my wife that if I should die, she should consult TB members for market value. I expect it will only continue to increase in value.

One thing I won't abide by is paying extra for mods. I don't care that you swapped Fralins in, etc.

[TolerancEJ]

Personally, I tend to avoid listings of TB'ers who primarily post in the classifieds, as opposed to other threads/forums. I can pretty much get the sense when someone's just in it to flip something.

[bolophonic]

Things sell for whatever the market will bear. What the seller paid is irrelevant. Nobody owes you a killer deal, man. You have to go out and find them like the rest of us.

[kellyrojo]

I mostly agree with what everyone says here.....the market will bare out the correct price.... But then again, there are two guys on here that routinely put up basses for 20 to 40% more than they are worth and they never seem to sell them. What's the point? I also agree that the classy s in talkbass tend to have more integrity and transparency than Craig's or eBay so I agree with all the comments that we expect honesty and full disclosure here. I have sold just a few things here but I have always priced fairly and tried to describe everything in very full detail. That's all we can expect me thinks!

[Lonesomedave]

Originally Posted by kellyrojo

... But then again, there are two guys on here that routinely put up basses for 20 to 40% more than they are worth and they never seem to sell them....

that's it in a nutshell...sell for whatever price you want.

if you are too high, you won't sell. then, you can either decide not to sell or adjust your price accordingly. everyone gets what they want (well, ok, maybe the seller didn't get EXACTLY what he wanted, but only because his expectations were unreasonable)

to put buying & selling on moral terms is ridiculous. the seller wants to sell at the best possible price & the buyer wants to buy at the best possible price.

if they can agree, hooray...if not, one or the other must adjust their expectations or look elsewhere.

[96tbird]

Originally Posted by bolophonic

Things sell for whatever the market will bear.

Free Market 101. Commit it to memory.

[onosson]

When I have bought things here on TB, I feel very confident that the item will be as described, in the condition described, and that the seller will be cooperative and communicative throughout. In general, items have actually been better than I'd anticipated.

That's as much part of getting "a good deal" as the actual price paid in monetary terms.

So far (knock on wood), TBers haven't let me down - and I've tried to return the favour when selling here myself.