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Old 07-25-2007, 04:06 PM
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ok so lately ive been getting into records and i cant figure out the terms! can someone help me out like what does 2x lp mean? or 7 in 10 and 12 in? just to clear it up thanks!!!!!
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Old 07-25-2007, 04:28 PM
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I'm no athority on the subject, but I have a few records and I did start my album collection by buying records over 20 years ago... just got back into vinyl.

LP = long play. They run at 33 RPM (revolutions per minute)
This is the typical album format. They are 12 inches.

I would assume that 2x LP is a double album

A single, a record with just one song on each side, is the little ones with a bigger hole in the middle. They run at 45 RPM and I think they are 7".

I don't know anything about the less popular 77 RPM and 10" records. (except that Aerosmith had a song about the "big 10 inch record")

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Old 07-25-2007, 06:17 PM
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A few others...

EP - Extended Play. Usually a 7" with two tracks per side, may play at 45prm or 33rpm.

12" Single - One track per side, (Sometimes two on the B side) usually plays at 45rpm, better sound quality than a 7" single.

Japanese Pressing - better quality sleeve, top notch vinyl. Expect to pay more.

10" - Rare for vinyl, usually a "mini album" of 6 to 8 tracks total. More commonly found as...

78rpm - Shellac discs, normally one track per side (sometimes single sided). Music from before the invention of electricity, intended for playing on wind-up (clockwork) Gramophones. Sound quality usually thin & scratchy, but have a character of their own. Some early Rock & Roll stuff, but usually Dance Band Jazz, Classical or Pre-War Popular.

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LP = long play. They run at 33 RPM (revolutions per minute)
Actually, the speed at which an LP spins is 33 + 1/3 RPM.

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I don't know anything about the less popular 77 RPM and 10" records. (except that Aerosmith had a song about the "big 10 inch record")
As already said, the 10" discs spun at 78 RPM and they were rigid, so just a single fall was enough to break them.


16 RPM discs were also produced mainly for spoken material like children's tales, but the cassette made them disappear. 7" discs at 33 1/3 RPM were also released with the same purpose, although I knew many music singles in that format.

I really don't know how much of an expert I am on the subject, but I can tell that vinyl discs were the absolute center of my life. Actually, I just started buying CDs after realizing that I HAD to do it if I wanted to get more music. This is me at 3:



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Oh, and forgot to mention: 45 RPM postcards!



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12" Single - One track per side, (Sometimes two on the B side) usually plays at 45rpm, better sound quality than a 7" single.
That's because one single track had to occupy most of the vinyl's usable area, and that was achieved by setting the grooves very widely spaced during the cutting process (actually, it's one single spiral-shaped groove). This allowed for a very high output and wider dynamic range without risk of needle skipping.

On the other hand, if you check LPs with very long running times (at 25 minutes per side, the engineer was already pushing the limits), you'll notice that they are noticeably quieter than those with a maximum of 20 minutes per side because the grooves had to be very tightly spaced and the needle would most likely skip with a somewhat strong (loud) vibration. Most Iron Maiden works originally released in LP format, Queen's "Greatest Hits" (the 17-song version) and AC/DC's "If You want Blood (You've Got It)" are some examples that come to mind.
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On the other hand, if you check LPs with very long running times (at 25 minutes per side, the engineer was already pushing the limits), you'll notice that they are noticeably quieter than those with a maximum of 20 minutes per side because the grooves had to be very tightly spaced and the needle would most likely skip with a somewhat strong (loud) vibration. Most Iron Maiden works originally released in LP format, Queen's "Greatest Hits" (the 17-song version) and AC/DC's "If You want Blood (You've Got It)" are some examples that come to mind.

So THAT'S why my copy of Maiden Japan skipped for a while!

Thanks for the info, Alvaro.
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78rpm - Shellac discs, normally one track per side (sometimes single sided). Music from before the invention of electricity, intended for playing on wind-up (clockwork) Gramophones. Sound quality usually thin & scratchy, but have a character of their own. Some early Rock & Roll stuff, but usually Dance Band Jazz, Classical or Pre-War Popular.
78 rpm records were produced well into the 1950's. The first record player I operated (around 1959) was a Philips that had a switch for 16, 33, 45 or 78 rpm.

With the old mechanical gramophones you needed to change the needle after every few plays, and you'd have a whole little box of them. There were even special lower-volume needles available for night-time playing. Quaint.
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