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03-04-2009, 07:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tallahassee FL | | | What do you do when someone steals your stuff?
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Like your riffs, chordal style etc on the bass?
I just started in this new band and this young guy also plays. Hes more of a beginner but since I have joined I have heard him starting to take my style of playing and use it in his playing.
If this was you in this situation what would you, or could you do? |
03-04-2009, 07:54 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX, USA | | | There really isn't much you can do about it. I would try to make the best of it and take it as a compliment. Also, I'd use it to encourage me to practice more and to get better.
Getting mad or demanding he stop copying you will do no good, and probably make you look real bad.
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03-04-2009, 08:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Santiago de Chile | | | yeah, if somebody is imitating you it means you're doing something good............... most of the time! |
03-04-2009, 08:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles | | | Do your own thing and don't worry about it. You're one of his influences, just like all of us learned from someone else. Actually, I'd be kinda proud of it, I mean, the guy is learning bass through you and your playing. Not much better than that. He'll get his own voice eventually or maybe he'll quit playing, who knows. Focus your brain waves on what's under your control - your playing.
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03-04-2009, 08:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WI | | | Feel better?
Well I don't know what was stolen, but this might make you feel better.
I left my 1957 Pre CBS Fender Precision Bass at my girl friends apartment. She dumped me and her and her new boy friend sold it. |
03-04-2009, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bluewine  Well I don't know what was stolen, but this might make you feel better.
I left my 1957 Pre CBS Fender Precision Bass at my girl friends apartment. She dumped me and her and her new boy friend sold it. | If that doesn't deserve busted knee caps, nothing does.  |
03-04-2009, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by waytoodeep03 If this was you in this situation what would you, or could you do? | Do it better than him. Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewine I left my 1957 Pre CBS Fender Precision Bass at my girl friends apartment. She dumped me and her and her new boy friend sold it. | If anyone deserves to be castrated... It's him. |
03-04-2009, 09:40 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Charleston Illinois | | | Have you ever heard a bass line in a song and learned it?
Take it as a complement buddy.
Now add a few curves at him and see if he can handle it.
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03-04-2009, 10:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arizona | | | Stealing? Come on, Bro!
You are stealing from every great bass player that ever came before you every time you play anything.
Trust me, I highly doubt you are doing anything original, unless you are playing with your feet... Oh, wait, that has actually been done before (It is on youtube, look it up). Or maybe with your teeth... Oh, wait, guess what? That has been done before as well. Or maybe behind your back... Nope! Or maybe you're using your finger as a pick... NOPE, been done many times before you thought of it!
Unless he is stealing your original compositions, you are probably not doing anything nearly as technically inovative as you think you are.
So, please, loose the holier than thou attitude before you join the ranks of Tarence Trent Darby, and the likes!
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03-04-2009, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by waytoodeep03 Like your riffs, chordal style etc on the bass?
I just started in this new band and this young guy also plays. Hes more of a beginner but since I have joined I have heard him starting to take my style of playing and use it in his playing.
If this was you in this situation what would you, or could you do? | Plagiarism is the highest form of admiration!!
I would say that his playing is improving and that he has a good taste in choosing his basslines style  .
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03-04-2009, 11:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Finland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by waytoodeep03 Like your riffs, chordal style etc on the bass?
I just started in this new band and this young guy also plays. Hes more of a beginner but since I have joined I have heard him starting to take my style of playing and use it in his playing.
If this was you in this situation what would you, or could you do? | The style of playing can't be copyrighted, but if he is saying that riffs that you wrote are written by him, then I would suggest kicking him out of the band. Seriously, if this the way things are and you have just started as a band, I'm pretty confident that things sure won't improve.
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03-04-2009, 11:17 PM
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03-05-2009, 07:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV. | | | He who steals from me steals twice. |
03-05-2009, 08:09 AM
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03-05-2009, 09:04 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Quote:
Originally Posted by waytoodeep03 Like your riffs, chordal style etc on the bass?
I just started in this new band and this young guy also plays. Hes more of a beginner but since I have joined I have heard him starting to take my style of playing and use it in his playing.
If this was you in this situation what would you, or could you do? | Do nothing and feel flattered!!
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03-05-2009, 10:36 PM
|  | Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Moderator | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Heber Springs, Arkansas | | | When I was younger, this is why I didn't want to take on any students. I had plenty of people who wanted me to teach them, but I was afraid that somebody would steal my licks.
You know what? It's like other people are saying in this thread. I learned from listening to other players. Maybe I haven't directly copied any one player or part, but everything I do comes from my influences. I don't own any of my lines, I am just borrowing them. So why should I be upset if somebody borrows them from me? They weren't mine to begin with.
Of course, you have guys like Jaco, who basically reinvented the bass guitar, and he said from time to time that people were stealing from him, and it bothered him. But unless you are that kind of once in a generation innovator, get over yourself.
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