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11-24-2012, 10:41 AM
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11-24-2012, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AnchorHoy  | +1! She and Maria Muldaur are the queens of grease.
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11-24-2012, 12:00 PM
|  | Registered Spector Addict | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO. | | | The first time I ever heard music called "greasy" was in a magazine review of a ZZ Top album. I always took it to mean tough sounding, straight ahead, down & dirty rock & roll or blues.
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11-27-2012, 10:39 AM
| | | | Well if that bonnie tune is greasy sounds to me like everyone agreed on the one and played behind it,, yup makes the grease really smooth,, i wish i had a drummer that greasy |
11-27-2012, 10:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vegas | | | If a musician gets down, whatever the genre, and it's raw, then they have grease of their spoon.
If they stay within the lines, in the comfort zone and don't take risks, they ain't greasy.
Something to do with music that gets close to the heart of the matter, the uncivilized animal aspect of dancing, sex, and music.
Grease vs. Polish.
Raw vs. Refined.
BUT greasy doesn't mean sloppy.
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11-27-2012, 11:04 AM
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11-27-2012, 10:34 PM
| | | | slick nasty and funky. us blacks are born with it. i never had to ask what it meant i knew before i was even told |
11-27-2012, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Da Bassics slick nasty and funky. us blacks are born with it. i never had to ask what it meant i knew before i was even told | Unnecessary, racist, and untrue.
If you haven't met a black person without grease you aren't looking.
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11-28-2012, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by VegasGutPlucker Unnecessary, racist, and untrue.
If you haven't met a black person without grease you aren't looking. | :lol: at it being racist. i havent met a black person without it. and the only ones who dont show it is because they havent tried to use it yet. :lol: at this being racist. you acting like i said whites cant have it either. you obviously dont have the funk in you or you wouldnt get uset. even whites ive played with in the past agree with me they are the ones who brought it up how we have it. lol |
11-28-2012, 03:39 AM
|  | Still learning...... | | | | Grease as I understand the term is commonly used to imply a way of thinking about a tune within the stylistic context of roots music. Think of it like a roots "accent". Listen to old blues records, listen to Freddie King, and listen to the flexibility of the subdivisions, in particular the 8th note. There's a range between a straight 8th note and the 16th with the triplet 8th in between. Listen to the tone of all the instruments. Listen to how the note bends from a minor to major. Listen to old bluegrass and dixieland music. All of this stuff has an accent, a flavor as it were. It's in the instruments and it's in the rhythms and the harmonies common to the idioms.
Do not confuse grease with slop however. Grease is on a dial that you control. Slop is just not having your **** together and calling it grease.
Suggested listening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbqtnNorgQA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_iC0MyIykM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCURzted8N0
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11-28-2012, 03:48 AM
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11-28-2012, 02:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Asheville, NC | | This is fascinating. The Stooges, greasy? Maria Muldaur?
When I was a wee sprat, "greasy" was attached to only one kind of music: the blues being played on a big ol' Hammond B-3.
Greasy: Charles Earland: Black Talk (excerpt)
Greasy: Joey Defrancesco.
Not Greasy: Peter Hayward.
Clear? Thanks, I'm here all week.
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11-28-2012, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Da Bassics :lol: at it being racist. i havent met a black person without it. and the only ones who dont show it is because they havent tried to use it yet. :lol: at this being racist. you acting like i said whites cant have it either. you obviously dont have the funk in you or you wouldnt get uset. even whites ive played with in the past agree with me they are the ones who brought it up how we have it. lol | And all gays are great with fashion, right?  People get upset because blanket stereotypes like this, even ones with positive connotations, are still stereotypes and yeah, untrue. Cut that stuff out. |
11-28-2012, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Da Bassics :lol: at it being racist. i havent met a black person without it. and the only ones who dont show it is because they havent tried to use it yet. :lol: at this being racist. you acting like i said whites cant have it either. you obviously dont have the funk in you or you wouldnt get uset. even whites ive played with in the past agree with me they are the ones who brought it up how we have it. lol | So...let me get this straight: All Black players have it but some just haven't tried to use it? I occasionally work with a guitarist of the African -American persuasion who could really use your help, because he may have grease, but as best I can tell he needs help finding it, because he sure isn't using it! Really, counting to four with this guy is an adventure. I am, of course, a Very White Guy. I have no good explanation for why I can swing ("swing" is not "grease," but it'll have to do in this instance), it was probably those darn Ellington records Dad played all the time back in the day. (I'm worse that white: I'm OLD.)
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11-28-2012, 07:10 PM
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11-28-2012, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Winemule This is fascinating. The Stooges, greasy? Maria Muldaur?
When I was a wee sprat, "greasy" was attached to only one kind of music: the blues being played on a big ol' Hammond B-3.
Greasy: Charles Earland: Black Talk (excerpt)
Greasy: Joey Defrancesco.
Not Greasy: Peter Hayward.
Clear? Thanks, I'm here all week. | Geez I don't know............maybe defining grease is like defining growl. ok maybe Maria isn't the queen of grease like Bonnie, but she is greasey...and I'm not talkin bout her Midnight at the Oasis days  check out her album Steady Love; good stuff!
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11-29-2012, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bucephylus | Now we're getting somewhere. Both vocals are definitely greasy. The music accompanying the vocals is, in my estimation, standard-issue '70s funk, but let's not quibble.
Here's another example: Definitely greasy vocal, still '70s funk, but the music heads toward greasy in the last 60 seconds or so. General Crook: Fever In The Funkhouse
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11-29-2012, 12:23 PM
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11-29-2012, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Da Bassics :lol: at it being racist. i havent met a black person without it. and the only ones who dont show it is because they havent tried to use it yet. :lol: at this being racist. you acting like i said whites cant have it either. you obviously dont have the funk in you or you wouldnt get uset. even whites ive played with in the past agree with me they are the ones who brought it up how we have it. lol | you drew the first line in the sand by declaring "us blacks are born with it." All god's children can swing, black or white, some cultures reinforce it more than others.
And no, I'm not "uset" about my funk or lack thereof, I don't worry about it frankly. I'd rather listen to others and learn. Let the grease speak for itself.
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