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10-28-2005, 10:40 AM
|  | A Hard Rockin Lover of GREENBURST Moderator | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Where I lay my head is home | | | What gets you into the mood to write?
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I am working on something right now and i find it hard at times to initialy get kicked off but i have found listening to some good tunes IE Metallica , Led Zeppelin helps and once i get inside it then it just kind of flows a littel easier.What does it for you?
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10-28-2005, 10:59 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN | | Same thing really. I need to listen to something that gets my blood flowing, and then the inspiration will start stirring. What's odd is that I haven't listened to a single CD for about 3 weeks up until today. Usually a live DVD concert will do it for me. 
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10-28-2005, 12:05 PM
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Endorser: Dean Markley / Thunderfunk | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Branson, Missouri | | | What I have found reminds me of something I heard one of my favorite composers (Pat Metheny) say (not an exact quote, but you'll get the idea):
"I find that often if I can just force myself to start writing, it'll start to come to me. Often I'll start off and just hate what I'm writing...all the while thinking I really hate where this is going. But then about halfway through...if I can just force myself to stay with it, the piece will start to evolve into something I like, and I'll just throw away the first half and go with the new direction."
I've found this to be true for me as well. It's one of those "doing it is what creates the ability to do it" type things. Similar in that "starting to write is what motivates to start to write."
Dunno if that makes any sense, but it works for me anyway... |
10-28-2005, 12:08 PM
| | A Hard Rockin Lover of GREENBURST Moderator | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Where I lay my head is home | | Yeah it does seem like you just need that spark to start and then it just starts to flow out. Sometimes you just need the key to unlock the door. 
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10-28-2005, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Willett What I have found reminds me of something I heard one of my favorite composers (Pat Metheny) say (not an exact quote, but you'll get the idea):
"I find that often if I can just force myself to start writing, it'll start to come to me. Often I'll start off and just hate what I'm writing...all the while thinking I really hate where this is going. But then about halfway through...if I can just force myself to stay with it, the piece will start to evolve into something I like, and I'll just throw away the first half and go with the new direction."
I've found this to be true for me as well. It's one of those "doing it is what creates the ability to do it" type things. Similar in that "starting to write is what motivates to start to write."
Dunno if that makes any sense, but it works for me anyway... | My God, this is exactly how I approach my literature writing. I'll visit the boards for a while, post a few messages, and try to temporarily train myself for a conversational tone, and then start writing. Most of the time, I end up throwing away the first page or two as it's a piss-pour lead and transition. I often times find that it takes an hour or two just to warm up.
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10-28-2005, 03:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA | | | It is VERY difficult for me to write/read with music in the background. Just way too dristracting. I can write and read with a lot of noise, but just not music. Any form of music, as well. Baroque largos to Ornette Coleman.
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10-28-2005, 03:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Urbana, IL | | | Well, part of my problem is interseting subject matter for lyrics. Most of my stuff ends up being some kinda depressing stuff, ubt it's just mee getting out feelings I need to get out.
Here's a question... When writing lyrics, do you go for more of a prose with rhythm, or a ryhme scheme?
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10-28-2005, 08:28 PM
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10-28-2005, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Trevorus Well, part of my problem is interseting subject matter for lyrics. Most of my stuff ends up being some kinda depressing stuff, ubt it's just mee getting out feelings I need to get out.
Here's a question... When writing lyrics, do you go for more of a prose with rhythm, or a ryhme scheme? | Well I used to go with both, but as long as you match up the lyrical flow with the rhythm, ryhming isn't always necessary. And too much can sound too contrived.
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10-28-2005, 11:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Urbana, IL | | | THAT is what I have been feeling. Too much rhyme, too contrived.
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10-28-2005, 11:23 PM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | I write a lot of music and lyrics for commercial applications, and the way I get inspired to do it is to look at that check I got as a deposit, then I imagine me getting the rest of it when I finish the job. Inspires the hell out of me!
But I also write for myself. There's times when I'll think of a lyric or a melody and it snowballs and in an hour I've got a new tune. But I don't always feel like writing, and as it stands right now I've got three songs recorded that don't have lyrics and I don't have ideas for lyrics. I had 5 songs a couple weeks ago and I had to force myself to write two sets of lyrics just to get these songs done and out of the way. What I do is to just start riffing on lyrics, writing down or recording all of what I come up with, then I'll wait a day or two and go through these ideas and whittle them down to the good stuff, possibly adding more lyrics. Good or bad ideas, it doesn't matter. Just do it.
When the ideas aren't coming fast and hard, you really do have to force yourself to do it and almost think of it like a job. As the great philosopher Calvin said in one of his last "Calvin And Hobbes" comic strips, "What good is artistic ability if you can't churn it out?" |
10-28-2005, 11:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yuma, Az | | | Deadlines. Any kind of deadline will do, except one that is self-imposed. I apparently need the pressure of a deadline to focus properly. I'm not much of a self-starter, unless you count how often I throw myself into sink-or-swim situations to keep the pressure on. I'd agree with JimmyM, good or bad ideas don't matter, put out enough of 'em, and songs start to come together almost on their own, IME.
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10-29-2005, 12:12 AM
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Dreams inspire me. I create whole short stories from dreams. Music sometimes works. But not always.
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10-30-2005, 05:44 PM
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10-30-2005, 06:47 PM
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Also, seeing live bands or live dvds get me in the mood to write as well.
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10-30-2005, 06:51 PM
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10-30-2005, 08:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Beautiful Western Colorado | | | The mortgage, car payments, electric and propane bills. I write financial reports for a living and when I've been working on something for a while I need a kick in the pants to put it all down on paper. I love the investigation and analysis, but the writing is like a death march. Staring financial disaster in the face gets the creative juices flowing.
Music is a pastime for me, but songs are pretty much the same way. The only way I can finish a musical piece is to have made a commitment to somebody. If I tell somebody that a song will be ready for a gig in two months, it drives me to make sure it is. I working on 3 new arrangements for a gig on the second Saturday of December right now. I know I have to have them ready for practicing in the next week, or two at the latest.
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10-30-2005, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Trevorus THAT is what I have been feeling. Too much rhyme, too contrived. | Rhyme that sounds contrived is poor rhyme. In fact sometimes the best rhyme is that which I am unaware of. I remember in college doing a paper on my favorite poem "Anthem for Doomed Youth" by Wilfred Owen. It wasn't until I started analysing it that I realized that it was a sonnet. That is superb writing.
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10-31-2005, 04:48 AM
| | | | Usually, the mood just kinda hits me. It usually happens in the morning after I've been up for a couple of hours and I've downed a nice cup o' joe. |
10-31-2005, 09:11 AM
| | A Hard Rockin Lover of GREENBURST Moderator | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Where I lay my head is home | | You know when i started this thread i was actually refering to writting outside of the musical sphere. I am currently working on an Ethical Moral Argument that i am writting and thats why i asked.Thanks for all the input 
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