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bluewine 02-01-2013 09:17 AM

What Happened To?
 
What happened to the styles of the Willie Weeks , Chuck Rainy, Rocco Prestia, Larry Graham, Bob Babbitt’s, James Jamerson or Carole Kaye.

Why did those styles fall out of vogue?

Would love to hear opinions from all you historians.

Blue

electracoyote 02-01-2013 09:19 AM

Not sure blue, but I doubt "band managment" will help you answer your question.

bluewine 02-01-2013 09:39 AM

This might be the wrong forum then.

I think it's an interesting discussion though.

Blue

4stringfiend 02-01-2013 09:42 AM

The music industry isn't really about making good music in a timely fashion anymore, and the Jamerson's Caye's and Rainey's of that day are not conducive to the manipulative marketing of the industry. Metallica spending ~2 years on an album, that was godawful? That is more accurate to the climate of the music industry now.

fkh006 02-01-2013 09:47 AM

Actually, I just saw Tower of Power Thursday night.
Take my word, Rocco is alive and as awesome as ever.

Who says they are "out of vouge?"

Russell L 02-01-2013 10:06 AM

If it's an old style, they call it country now.

bluewine 02-01-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fkh006 (Post 13812337)
Actually, I just saw Tower of Power Thursday night.
Take my word, Rocco is alive and as awesome as ever.

Who says they are "out of vouge?"

Well when I mention his name to many under 40 years old, they tell me they don't know who he is.

He will never be out of vogue to me.

Blue

bluewine 02-01-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell L (Post 13812475)
If it's an old style, they call it country now.

I wouldn't classify any of their styles by time. Their styles are all timeless.

Blue

JumboJack 02-01-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bluewine (Post 13812541)
Well when I mention his name to many under 40 years old, they tell me they don't know who he is.

He will never be out of vogue to me.

Blue

It's unfortunate that some people don't care about some of the great music from the past. Conversely, many over 40 don't know a name like Chris Wolstenholme which is also a shame.

Bert Slide 02-01-2013 10:58 AM

HEY YOU KIDS!!! GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!!!

yodedude2 02-01-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bluewine (Post 13812116)
What happened to the styles of the Willie Weeks , Chuck Rainy, Rocco Prestia, Larry Graham, Bob Babbitt’s, James Jamerson or Carole Kaye.

Why did those styles fall out of vogue?

Would love to hear opinions from all you historians.

Blue

i suggest that MTV and the 'visualfication' of pop music played a significant role, i.e. the aural style of pop music became less important than the visual style.

fkh006 02-01-2013 11:09 AM

rocco and TOP and NAMM last Thursday evening
 
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They rocked the house for almost two hours. :eek:
The place was packed.

fraublugher 02-01-2013 11:12 AM

I 'd figure it's safe to assume many of us include carrying on the tradition part of our job description in cover bands whether they be blues , RB , Jazz ,pop , Latin... .

zfunkman 02-01-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bluewine (Post 13812116)
What happened to the styles of the Willie Weeks , Chuck Rainy, Rocco Prestia, Larry Graham, Bob Babbitt’s, James Jamerson or Carole Kaye.

Why did those styles fall out of vogue?

Would love to hear opinions from all you historians.

Blue

This style of music just isn't in the mainstream anymore. However, in the subculture funk and R&B are alive and well. Try listening to the Greyboy Allstars, Karl Denson, Galactic, Sharon Jones, Soulive, Lettuce, Trombone Shorty, Erykha Badu, Angie Stone, Macy Grey . . . there's more but thats all can think of right now. The bass players for all these groups kill it!

jive1 02-01-2013 11:21 AM

This thread belongs in misc.

bluewine 02-01-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by zfunkman (Post 13812922)
This style of music just isn't in the mainstream anymore. However, in the subculture funk and R&B are alive and well. Try listening to the Greyboy Allstars, Karl Denson, Galactic, Sharon Jones, Soulive, Lettuce, Trombone Shorty, Erykha Badu, Angie Stone, Macy Grey . . . there's more but thats all can think of right now. The bass players for all these groups kill it!

I have checked out some of the work above, it's awesome but like you said it fell to the ranks of sub-culture.:crying:


Blue

bluewine 02-01-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fkh006 (Post 13812893)
They rocked the house for almost two hours. :eek:
The place was packed.

+1

If you can turn on even one newbie it's a win.

Blue

baba 02-01-2013 02:05 PM

Every pop song I seem to hear is four on the floor. Kind of takes the groove out of the rhythm section, doesn't it?

zfunkman 02-01-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bluewine (Post 13813273)
I have checked out some of the work above, it's awesome but like you said it fell to the ranks of sub-culture.:crying:


Blue

It may not be in the mainstream anymore; however, I can see these bands at small venues at an affordable price. I've had this argument with my friends who b*tch about these bands not being more popular than they are. I prefer a show at the House of Blues over Staples Center and most of the music I listen to I can see at clubs and small theaters. I still enjoyed seeing bands like Roger Waters and Rush at the arena. However, I really did enjoy seeing the RHCP's back in the day at the Troubador and the Whiskey a Go Go than I did Staples Center.

bass12 02-01-2013 02:26 PM

Well, for a start, "black American music" (for lack of a better term") is in a very different place from where it was in the 60s and 70s, stylistically as well as in terms of sociial context. And electric bass is in a very different place. You still have guys who play in an "old school" way but those guys are often less visible in today's sea of popular music.


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