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07-24-2008, 02:04 PM
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There is often a brief instrumental interlude between a chorus and the next verse in a song with lyrics. In country music it is often referred to as "the turn-around". I find that a bit corny and ambiguous. What would this be called in pop/rock music?
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07-24-2008, 02:38 PM
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07-24-2008, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcury Turn-around | 
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07-24-2008, 02:48 PM
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I've never heard anyone actually use that term, though.
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07-24-2008, 02:55 PM
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The last two bars signal the going back to the beginning with the final bar ending on the V chord... if you don't play a turnaround, then you have to play the ending and finish on the I chord... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnaround_%28music%29
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07-24-2008, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gladowsky | That's what it's called.
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07-25-2008, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Gladowsky |
...maybe it would hipper to say "the turn"? 
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07-25-2008, 06:41 AM
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07-25-2008, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Gladowsky |
Ask a question, get a (correct) answer, and complain about it? Nice.
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07-25-2008, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Pacman Ask a question, get a (correct) answer, and complain about it? Nice. |
ok - ok. My question was ANOTHER name for a turn-around. But, from my post I did received an answer of sorts which I do appreciate - and that is - the term "turn-around" is used in other musical styles. I had only heard it in country-music circles (not my favorite style). Now I know.
Thanks for all of the input (no sarcasm intended).
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07-25-2008, 11:42 AM
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07-25-2008, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lefty007 Now YOU turn around!  | done
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07-25-2008, 01:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Atlanta | | | since usually the turn around is the begining of the songs replayed, we usually call it and intro....as in "back to the intro"
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07-25-2008, 02:38 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | According to http://classicalworks.com/html/glossary.html the appropriate term would be - Da Capo: "In sheet music, an instruction to repeat the beginning of the piece before stopping on the final chord."
Another definition of Da Capo from http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~acsdry/quizes/mterms.html: "From the beginning. A direction to repeat the entire compositon from the beginning to the place where the word "fine" appears or to the end."
So if y'all have a classical bent, just yell 'Da Capo" and I'm SURE the entire band will be right with you...... 
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07-25-2008, 03:10 PM
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I yelled "Da Capo" once, and someone threw a string clamp at me! | 
07-25-2008, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim According to http://classicalworks.com/html/glossary.html the appropriate term would be - Da Capo: "In sheet music, an instruction to repeat the beginning of the piece before stopping on the final chord."
Another definition of Da Capo from http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~acsdry/quizes/mterms.html: "From the beginning. A direction to repeat the entire compositon from the beginning to the place where the word "fine" appears or to the end."
So if y'all have a classical bent, just yell 'Da Capo" and I'm SURE the entire band will be right with you......  | Da Capo is an instruction to go back to the beginning, a turnaround is a chord progression that leads to the beginning. They're not the same thing at all.
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07-25-2008, 05:23 PM
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07-25-2008, 08:55 PM
|  | Student of Life Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisville, KY | | | I've seen it written different ways, depending on what country you're in. For instance, in Germany, they say, "Das harmonische Treten von Wasser für zwei Bars". However, if you happen to be in France, it's "Le fait de marcher harmonique d'eau pour deux barres". Should you find yourself in Portugal, it's usually "Pisada harmônica de água de duas barras", whereas in Russia, they say "Гармоническая поступь воды для двух баров".
I usually just use a hand signal to signify a turnaround when in Russia. | 
07-26-2008, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim According to http://classicalworks.com/html/glossary.html the appropriate term would be - Da Capo: "In sheet music, an instruction to repeat the beginning of the piece before stopping on the final chord."
Another definition of Da Capo from http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~acsdry/quizes/mterms.html: "From the beginning. A direction to repeat the entire compositon from the beginning to the place where the word "fine" appears or to the end."
So if y'all have a classical bent, just yell 'Da Capo" and I'm SURE the entire band will be right with you......  | As has been mentioned this is an instruction to end the piece, whereas a turnaround is about carrying on and prolonging the piece - two very different things!
I have heard this in Jazz/Latin though - so where you have open solos - you might go back to the turnaround and do another solo or head out - although I know that technically that is Da Capo - the band leaders I have been with, shouted : "to the sign" - so the band would know to go to the sign in the score, rather than round again!
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07-26-2008, 07:06 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati | | | In the usage that I've seen "Turnaround" would be more like a first ending than a Da Capo. I've also heard 'Turnaround' used to mean a ii7 - V7... in that someone might decribe a chord progression as 'a turnaround in F, a Dm7, then a turnaround in A, a Bb chord, and then a turnaround in C then a C7 (bridge of "At Last").
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