What's With The Hate For Green Day?

Dubadays · #1 06-13-2009, 03:16 PM

Look, I'm not a Green Day fan boy by any means, and nor do I generally like that genre of music, I just don't think that they get the credit they deserve. I'm not a fan of any of their "radio songs" such as Wake Me Up When September Ends, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, American Idiot or Holiday. That stuff is....bleh. I think their older stuff and the less popular songs from American Idiot are all very good music. Granted, Mike Dirnt is no Jaco, the guitar players aren't Hendrix, and the drummer isn't Buddy Rich. But what they lack in flashy riffs, they make up for in good writing in their songs and just overall tightness. i.e.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxPop7HDOIw
This is the video that made me a believer. I haven't seen another band that comes close to having that stage presence.
So I ask you TBers, shatter the stereotype that Green Day is only meant for tweens. They have GOOD music.

James Hart · #2 06-13-2009, 03:28 PM

I use to listen to them a lot when they first hit the scene...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmm3TA8Nl_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERjVeTGRPZY

Haven't cared much for them in the last decade and a half... though I do like the tune 'Boulevard of Broken Dreams'.

Dubadays · #3 06-13-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by James Hart

I use to listen to them a lot when they first hit the scene...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmm3TA8Nl_A

Haven't cared much for them in the last decade and a half... though I do like the tune 'Boulevard of Broken Dreams'.

Welcome To Paradise is a great song. You should listen to Jesus of Suburbia if you haven't already. REALLY good writing on that one.

James Hart · #4 06-13-2009, 03:32 PM

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Welcome To Paradise is a great song. You should listen to Jesus of Suburbia if you haven't already. REALLY good writing on that one.

I did before I replied.

Dubadays · #5 06-13-2009, 03:35 PM

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I did before I replied.

Gotcha. The drummer's expressions are hilarious/creepy

. He is one weird dude.

Rocker949 · #6 06-13-2009, 03:36 PM

I've always found their sound bland and predictable. I never understood why they got so much attention in the first place. But to each his own; if people want to like them or dislike them, that's fine.

Illbay · #7 06-13-2009, 03:36 PM

What's with the "What's With The Hate For ____________" threads?

Dubadays · #8 06-13-2009, 03:37 PM

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What's with the "What's With The Hate For ____________" threads?

Well, I don't really hang around this board, so I wouldn't really know that there were a lot.

Dubadays · #9 06-13-2009, 03:38 PM

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I've always found their sound bland and predictable. I never understood why they got so much attention in the first place. But to each his own; if people want to like them or dislike them, that's fine.

You're reasoning is valid. A lot of the people I talk to say that they don't like them because they are too popular. Ridiculous

Stinsok · #10 06-13-2009, 03:39 PM

Not hate, just apathy.

Dubadays · #11 06-13-2009, 03:40 PM

Wow. Talk about irony. The ad above the post was showing "Jonas Brother's vs. Green Day".

Valerus · #12 06-13-2009, 03:42 PM

THEY SOLD OUT!!!!!

...just kidding. I lost interest in their style years ago.

Chipsonfire · #13 06-13-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocker949

I've always found their sound bland and predictable. I never understood why they got so much attention in the first place. But to each his own; if people want to like them or dislike them, that's fine.

I'm a fan of Green Day and I think I can answer that question. The music they have been writing recently (ie the ones the OP didn't much care for) are catchy, easy to listen to and fairly simple, with nice, safe chords that people are accustomed to hearing. It's the recipe to becoming popular. I can agree with punk purists who don't like what they have become, because it does seem they are leaning more towards pop than punk these days, but you can't blame them for writing/playing what sells. Especially in this day and age. Just my thoughts on the matter.

Illbay · #14 06-13-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubadays

Well, I don't really hang around this board, so I wouldn't really know that there were a lot.

A LOT!!!

"What's with the hate for Fieldy?" "What's with the hate for Jaco?" "What's with the hate for relic-ing basses?" "What's with the hate for NOT relic-ing basses?"

I could go on for quite a long time.

Illbay · #15 06-13-2009, 03:45 PM

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...but you can't blame them for writing/playing what sells.

Hey, you're talking to a "classic Genesis fan," here.

Rocker949 · #16 06-13-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chipsonfire

I'm a fan of Green Day and I think I can answer that question. The music they have been writing recently (ie the ones the OP didn't much care for) are catchy, easy to listen to and fairly simple, with nice, safe chords that people are accustomed to hearing. It's the recipe to becoming popular. I can agree with punk purists who don't like what they have become, because it does seem they are leaning more towards pop than punk these days, but you can't blame them for writing/playing what sells. Especially in this day and age. Just my thoughts on the matter.

I think you may be correct. More and more the public seems to want something simple, dumb, and boring. The fact that Coldplay is famous is proof of that. However, this isn't meant as an insult to Green Day. Compared to Coldplay, Green Day is fantastic.

Dubadays · #17 06-13-2009, 04:29 PM

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I think you may be correct. More and more the public seems to want something simple, dumb, and boring. The fact that Coldplay is famous is proof of that. However, this isn't meant as an insult to Green Day. Compared to Coldplay, Green Day is fantastic.

It pisses me off to no end that they got Rock Album of the Year.

Rocker949 · #18 06-13-2009, 04:47 PM

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It pisses me off to no end that they got Rock Album of the Year.

Yes, if Coldplay is a rock band, then I'm the Wizard of Oz.

Dubadays · #19 06-13-2009, 06:00 PM

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Yes, if Coldplay is a rock band, then I'm the Wizard of Oz.

According to those that chose the Grammy winners, you are the Wizard of Oz.

lorenk · #20 06-13-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by James Hart

I use to listen to them a lot when they first hit the scene...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmm3TA8Nl_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERjVeTGRPZY

Haven't cared much for them in the last decade and a half... though I do like the tune 'Boulevard of Broken Dreams'.

I agree completely. After Dookie I really think they started to lose that catchy pop punk sound and drift into commerical music. I loooooved Dookie too. It was the reason I picked up bass. Well, actually Longview was. Whatever though.

I definately don't hate 'em. I just don't spend much time focusing on 'em. That said, I think Billy Joe is a really good song writer; a lot of his songs are catchy, fun and easily identifiable with.