When your favorite band/s lost it

[MatticusMania]

When they replaced the drummer with one of the monkeys crashing cymbals together, I knew the band was truly epic-

[pat5150]

Originally Posted by El Raro

I dunno...they lost it a tiny bit on Snakes for the Divine. But hardly a cause for concern...De Vermis Mysteriis is ungodly good.

What? Snakes for the Divine was absolutely immense. MAYBE just MAYBE a little more "produced" sounding than their other efforts. But come on that album absolutely smashes your head in.

[Hues]

When I was in my teens and early twenties, you couldn't go to a keg party or any bar without hearing the songs from the first live REO Speedwagon album....Everywhere you went. All over the radio.

What a top-notch rock and roll band those guys used to be....Ridin' The Storm Out....Gary Richrath's blazing guitar.

[champbassist]

Originally Posted by Jim Nazium

I think U2 peaked with Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby. I don't know if I would say they "lost it" after those, but all of their subsequent albums were pretty forgettable, IMO.

I think on similar lines, but I actually like Zooropa better than AB, and I also like a few songs on Pop. I'd prefer any given song from 80s era U2 to almost anything after Zooropa. Even the 80s B-Sides were incredible: some hidden gems among those, like Boomerang and Love Comes Tumbling.

[JimK]

Originally Posted by Lonesomedave

David Bowie--after Aladdin Sane
Pink Floyd-- after Dark Side of the Moon
The Who--after Quadrophenia
Led Zepplin--after Houses of the Holy (although not as much as the first ones)
the Stones-- from @ 1975 on, say Goat's Head Soup
The Moody Blues--after Seventh Sojourn
Yes--after Close to the Edge

I don't disagree...although, personally, it was at this specific time frame where I started listening/buying more Jazz/R&B/Funk than Rock.
So, back then, these were probably the last LPs I bought by the above bands (Caveat:I never bought anything by Pink Floyd).
Recently, I have gone back & filled into some blanks, however (like Physical Graffiti...now I love it).
Within the past 2 months, I bought Alladin Sane on disc...wow, Mike Garson piano on the title cut is f'ing amazing...and I'm sure I just blew by it back in the '70s.

Here's a couple of others-
Captain Beyond...after their debut?
Santana...after Santana III?

[SoVeryTired]

Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya

They lost it AT The Resistance, IMHO

+1

Biffy Clyro - Puzzles had some high points but was the beginning of a steady slide.

[Mr_Music90]

Lovely thread. I've been waiting for this

In November 2009, I saw Rammstein live for the first time in Gelredome, Arnhem, Holland. I was very existed because this would be my first concert in my life, exactly at my favorite band (atleast, at that time). However, I was so disappointed about them. The sound was very poor, bass almost not hearable, it sounded like there was a small ''distortion'' through the entire concert and even the amount of flamethrowers and fireworks, it didn't impress me.

Their show was so empty. No contact with the audience, no improvisation, no nothing.. I was even mad at myself paying 70 euro (about 91 US dollar) for a show THAT lame.

Ever since I don't listen Rammstein anymore, I removed all music from my computer and mp3 and I've become a fan of Dream Theater, Primus, Adagio and Avantasia!!

[Mr_Music90]

Oh, and when they lost it? Every time they go on stage

[LiquidMidnight]

I thought the Goo Goo Dolls lost it after Dizzy Up The Girl, which was their last good album, IMHO. I don't mind it when a band adds commercial elements into their music - in fact, I think some bands actually get better when they go commercial, e.g., Incubus actually found their sound when they went commercial and stopped sounding like a poor man's Faith No More. But Goo Goo Dolls became a little too...safe-sounding, for a lack of a better term. The emphasis really became on Johnny who sang all of the singles.

I thought 5 was Lenny Kravitz's last good album. Like the Goo Goo Dolls, I thought he started playing it way too safe and his songs became really boring - no hook to speak of.

[LiquidMidnight]

Originally Posted by champbassist

I think on similar lines, but I actually like Zooropa better than AB, and I also like a few songs on Pop. I'd prefer any given song from 80s era U2 to almost anything after Zooropa. Even the 80s B-Sides were incredible: some hidden gems among those, like Boomerang and Love Comes Tumbling.

Pop has some absolutely awesome songs (e.g., Last Night On Earth, Please, Mofo) and some absolutely forgettable songs (e.g., Playboy Mansion). Overall, I think it was one of U2's better post-80s albums, but definitely far from my favorite.

[lavmonga]

Originally Posted by Kmonk

KISS has been terrible the last few times I have seen them. I have a recording off the board from a show a couple of years ago. Paul Stanley's voice was screeching, he was flat and couldn't hit the high notes. I let a friend of mine listen to it and all he could say was "That poor B*st*rd". They should have hung it up a long time ago but as long as people are willing to pay to see them, I doubt that they will stop touring. Last year Van Halen was so bad that they cancelled the tour after a few shows.

Let's face it, Paul is in his 60s.

I spent years trying to defend KISS as a legitimate band. After all the bullsh*t, I stuck by them, then a few years back, my mom was watching American Idol and said to me "watch this guy, he likes rock music, maybe he'll play a KISS song..." He ended up singing "Beth", which was surprising, then KISS came out and played Detroit Rock City with him. I lost it, I gave up on them right then and there, the fact that there are people playing parts in the band (catman and spaceman) is also terribly unsettling.

[bassistjoe93]

Led Zeppelin after Physical Graffiti... After that album (and there's even stuff on that album I really don't care for "In My Time of Dying" "Custard Pie" and "Trampled Underfoot" really save that album for me), Zeppelin lost a lot of their signature sound imo. "All of My Love," really? I'm a die hard Zeppelin fan, but that song is in my top 5 worst songs ever written list.

The Black Keys... Kinda. I'm torn on them. I really like all of their material, but something is kind of missing on Brothers and El Camino. I really like the albums, but they just sound less passionate, urgent, and intense than their earlier material like Thickfreakness.

[rtav]

Rush - after Moving Pictures (Feb 1981, sorry, but when the synthesized intro to Subdivisions starts up I tune them out almost totally for decades. )
Queen - after "Jazz" (Nov. 1978)
Renaissance - after "Azure D'Or" (1979)
Genesis - after "Duke" album (1979)
Jethro Tull - after "Stormwatch" (1979)
Kansas - after "Audio Visions" (1980)
Yes - after "Drama" (1980)
Heart - "Bebe le Strange" (1980)
Supertramp - "Breakfast in America" (1979)
Cheap Trick - "Dream Police" (1979)

Yeah... something horrible happened around 1979-1980 that RUINED a number of great bands. My friend and I call it "The BUS WRECK." At some point in late 1979, early 1980, (New Years' Eve 1979 maybe) Rush, Queen, Yes, and all the other above bands were on a bus that drove off a cliff somewhere. The record companies were screwed and had to bring in look-a-likes for all of these bands, but the replacements, while looking like the original members, were not as talented and the quality of music fell off sharply with the very next releases and with an occasional exception, stayed low). The "Bus Wreck of Sometime in either 1979-1980" theory explains the "musical cliff" of these bands and their near-simultaneous fall from musical grace.

How else to explain the shift from effin' greatness to ewwww at the same time for so many bands in the span of one album?

Meh, it's a theory, anyways.

[champbassist]

Originally Posted by LiquidMidnight

Mofo

One of my favorite U2 songs. Awkwardly chilling in an intriguing way.

[BigJohnAZ]

David Bowie--after Aladdin Sane
Pink Floyd-- after Dark Side of the Moon
The Who--after Quadrophenia
Led Zepplin--after Houses of the Holy (although not as much as the first ones)
the Stones-- from @ 1975 on, say Goat's Head Soup
The Moody Blues--after Seventh Sojourn
Yes--after Close to the Edge

i'm sure i'll think of others

Dave,
I would say Bowie after "Heroes", but "Let's Dance" kicks butt.
PF, after "Animals", but I really do like "The Wall",
Agree on the rest.

[Tituscrow]

Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya

I heard Alice in Chain's new single "Hollow" or "Hallow" the other day. They've lost it.

Jmatt - usually I agree with a lot of what you say on TB, but you're wrong here

Whilst the Cantrell/Staley partnership was undoubtedly a beautiful thing, I think William DuVall has more than adequately stepped into Layne's shoes. Granted, we'll never get another 'Dirt', but the post-Staley stuff continues to ooze AIC awesomeness.

Regarding the new song, wait until the album, listen to the whole thing and then decide. I hope you change your mind!

[morgansterne]

I really thought Rush had lost it, (songwriting wise) in the 90's. But I love Clockwork Angels and they put on a great show for it.
Don't know if there's any Keane fans around here, but I was super disappointed with "perfect symmetry." Their first two albums are some of my most favorite ever, but the third was horribly mixed/mastered, only a couple songs I liked, and at least five songs I can barely listen to.

[FilterFunk]

Originally Posted by rtav

Rush - after Moving Pictures (Feb 1981, sorry, but when the synthesized intro to Subdivisions starts up I tune them out almost totally for decades. )
Queen - after "Jazz" (Nov. 1978)
Renaissance - after "Azure D'Or" (1979)
Genesis - after "Duke" album (1979)
Jethro Tull - after "Stormwatch" (1979)
Kansas - after "Audio Visions" (1980)
Yes - after "Drama" (1980)
Heart - "Bebe le Strange" (1980)
Supertramp - "Breakfast in America" (1979)
Cheap Trick - "Dream Police" (1979)

Yeah... something horrible happened around 1979-1980 that RUINED a number of great bands. My friend and I call it "The BUS WRECK." At some point in late 1979, early 1980, (New Years' Eve 1979 maybe) Rush, Queen, Yes, and all the other above bands were on a bus that drove off a cliff somewhere. The record companies were screwed and had to bring in look-a-likes for all of these bands, but the replacements, while looking like the original members, were not as talented and the quality of music fell off sharply with the very next releases and with an occasional exception, stayed low). The "Bus Wreck of Sometime in either 1979-1980" theory explains the "musical cliff" of these bands and their near-simultaneous fall from musical grace.

How else to explain the shift from effin' greatness to ewwww at the same time for so many bands in the span of one album?

Meh, it's a theory, anyways.

I think a lot of formerly great R&B/funk bands were on that same bus.

[portlandguy]

Smashing Pumpkins - Billy has still got it though so I am not sure

[heavyfunkmachin]

CAN - After Ege Bamyasi (1972)