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Old 05-27-2004, 09:14 PM
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I started a thread on this subject in the Lobby a while back, and only got a few replies (probably because sane people avoid the politcal headaches down there). So I figured I would open this up to TB at large.

Where does music come from? Is it something that you come up with out of your own head, or is it something that is chanelled through you? If you are but a vessel, who/what is sending this stuff through you?

Discuss, but play nice please.
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I started a thread on this subject in the Lobby a while back, and only got a few replies (probably because sane people avoid the politcal headaches down there).
HEY! What's that supposed to mean? You don't like seeing me get beat up?
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My music usually begins as some catchy lyric, then I put music to it in my head, Usually a basic riff, But I always have a general idea of what I want a song to sound like. I also like to stay within the tone or sound of a song as it developes, I've seen a lot of local acts throw things into songs that are just wrong, and in my opinion, sound like crap.
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Old 05-27-2004, 11:30 PM
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HEY! What's that supposed to mean? You don't like seeing me get beat up?
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Most of my music comes from my butt. Especially the bass parts.
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If you are but a vessel, who/what is sending this stuff through you?
The Ghost of Stravinsky?
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My music usually begins as some catchy lyric, then I put music to it in my head, Usually a basic riff, But I always have a general idea of what I want a song to sound like. I also like to stay within the tone or sound of a song as it developes, I've seen a lot of local acts throw things into songs that are just wrong, and in my opinion, sound like crap.
I think what ben is getting at is...where does that catchy riff come from.
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Music comes from.................I'm think'in now.....................wellthat didn't work now I lost it.......................um well.......................... somewhere.........................ya somewhere, everywhere, nowhere!
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Thanks for the serious responses guys.
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Old 05-28-2004, 02:55 AM
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...or is it something that is chanelled through you? If you are but a vessel, who/what is sending this stuff through you?
You really expected a serious answer to this!!

You'll be asking us to all join hands and not laugh, next!!
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I have to imagine it is a combination of regurgitated things you've heard before and things your brain randomly runs into that happen to sound cool. In other words, memory and randomness followed by subjective selection.
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Music comes from the heart.

HEART:

heart [haart] (plural hearts) noun
1.PHYSIOLOGY blood-pumping organ: a hollow muscular organ that pumps blood around the body, in humans situated in the center of the chest with its apex directed to the left
2.ANATOMY position of chest above heart: the area on the front of the human body that corresponds roughly to the position of the heart
3.basis of emotional life: the human heart, considered as the source and center of emotional life, where the deepest and sincerest feelings are located and an individual is most vulnerable to pain
4.character: somebody’s essential character
•He’s an abrupt-sounding cuss, but he’s got a very good heart.
5.compassion: the ability to feel humane and altruistic feelings
•If she had any heart she would forgive him.
6.affection: affection, love, or warm admiration
•The chorus’s singing won the hearts of the audience.
7.spirit: the capacity for courage and determination
•The team played with a lot of heart.
•They put their whole hearts into making a go of the business.
8.disposition: a mood, mental state, or frame of mind
9.essential part of something: the distinctive, significant, and characteristic center of something
•the heart of rural America
10.PLANTS part of vegetable around core: the often tasty or succulent compact central part of a vegetable, for example, a lettuce or cabbage, where the leaves curl in tightly
•artichoke hearts
11.FOOD animal heart used as food: the heart of an animal that is cleaned and trimmed, then roasted, stewed, or braised as food
12.symbolic depiction of heart: a simplified and conventionalized picture of a heart as a rounded, roughly triangular shape, often used to signify love
13.CARD GAMES playing card: any one of a suit of cards marked with a symbolic depiction of one or more hearts.
See also hearts noun 1
14.beloved person: somebody who is dearly loved
•Come to me, dear heart.

[Old English heorte. Related to German Herz.]

at heart
in essence or reality, and despite contrary appearances
break somebody’s heart
to cause somebody intense unhappiness and suffering
do somebody’s heart good
to make somebody feel happy or satisfied
eat your heart out
1.to brood about something that makes you feel unhappy (informal)
2.to be consumed with envy
have somebody’s welfare or interests at heart
to have somebody’s well-being or interests in mind
heart and soul
completely, or with the greatest devotion
in your heart of hearts
in your deepest inner feelings
learn or know something by heart
to memorize or have memorized something
lose heart
to become discouraged
not have the heart to do something
to be unable to bring yourself to do something that is liable to hurt somebody else
set your heart on something or have your heart set on something
to have something as your ambition or greatest wish
take heart
to become encouraged and more confident
take something to heart
1.to take something seriously
2.to be upset by something
wear your heart on your sleeve
to reveal your feelings openly
with all your heart
completely or very willingly

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I'm still trying to find the answer myself.

I don't believe in the vessel channel through you stuff. I also don't believe the heart thing. I don't see why hearts get so much cred. They are a muscles that pump blood. They don't generate love/creativity. Everyone seems to be in the mindset that they look like this...



wheras

is more the case.

I know just about everyone knows this... Sorry, I'm just anti-hearts... it must be part of my "down with emo" campaign.

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Where does music come from? Is it something that you come up with out of your own head, or is it something that is chanelled through you? If you are but a vessel, who/what is sending this stuff through you?
I think it's akin to self-medication... you're creating & searching for something that either reflects the way you feel, or points in a direction you'd like to go...

music creation can be an attempt to resolve inner conflict... creating or listening to music can provide you with the kinds of resolution (music's all about tension & release, rhythmic, harmonic etc) that you might be craving... it can function this way without you even knowing it

I think you learn all through your life, even in the womb, the effect that sound & music has on your state of mind, and that all you're doing when creating your own, or listening to other people's music is finding the jigsaw pieces that fit the right slots
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Old 05-28-2004, 11:11 AM
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You really expected a serious answer to this!!

You'll be asking us to all join hands and not laugh, next!!
For somebody who has been very vocal about the lack of serious threads about music, you sure are doing a good job at trying to derail this one into pointlessness. Some people really do have interesting things to say on the subject, and I would like to hear those opinions without you being a naysayer. If you don't have any thoughts on the spirituality/non-spirituality of music, then go find your own thread, and leave mine alone.
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Thanks for the serious responses guys.
I am being serious, I ether get something or I don't, I can't plan it no matter how much I come up with; whenever I try a force it I draw a blank.
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Simple:

I blow thru here
The music goes 'round and around
Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho
And it comes out here
I push the first valve down
The music goes down and around
Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho
And it comes out here
I push the middle valve down
The music goes down around below
Below, below, deedle-dee-ho-ho-ho
Listen to the jazz come out
I push the other valve down
The music goes 'round and around
Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho
And it comes out here…

Got it? good!

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