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07-01-2011, 06:40 AM
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Clincian: EA, Zon, Boomerang, TI. Author "The Art of Solo Bass" | | | | | Where is the SCAM?
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So I posted an amp for sale on Bassgear. At what point would you recognize the scam. How soon would you, at least, get the hint of a scam? Here are the emails:
Jimmy: Hello,
I saw your advert over the web and am much interested in buying it. I live here in Ohio, I will be responsible for the shipment down to my location, so please kindly write me back . I am Looking forward to your soonest reply
Me:
Jimmy,
Great to hear from you. Sorry I did not get back sooner - was at a minor league baseball game with the family. I can ship the amp as soon as you want by whatever carrier you want. If you have a UPS or Fedex account, I can do that as well. Payment can me made via Paypal, pesonal check, I can also take a credit card.
Thank you so very much
Jimmy:
Hello
Thanks for getting back to me.. I would like to send the payment via money order.. Cos that is the easier way for me to send the payment to you.. Please i will need this information from you....
Name in Full..............
Address............
Zip code......................
Country..................
Home number............
Awaiting all this details now
Me:
No problem.
Nme address and phone provided
No disrespect meant to you but I had an awful experience selling gear on the internet using a money order. The guy send a fraudulent Money Order via a stolen FedEX account. The FBI was invovled and it was not pretty. I hope you understand that I will have to wait for the money order to clear before I can ship the amp. If this is a problem, feel free to call me at the above number and we can work this out
Sincerely,
Mike Dimin
Jimmy:
Thanks for getting back to me.. I will get back to you as soon as possible.
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07-01-2011, 06:43 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mid-Atlantic USA. | | | Uh, yea.
Once burned, twice shy.
Don't blame you one bit. I wouldn't go for a money order either. |
07-01-2011, 06:43 AM
| | | | Right in the first message. Scam replies pretty much always say "the item" or whatever whereas real people mention what it is |
07-01-2011, 06:46 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NewYork, NY | | | US POSTAL money order is the best way to go, when you receive it you head over to your local Post Office and cash it, then and only then do you send the items.
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07-01-2011, 06:46 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Hampshire | | | You lost me at "advert". |
07-01-2011, 06:51 AM
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Clincian: EA, Zon, Boomerang, TI. Author "The Art of Solo Bass" | | | | | "advert" his where my suspicions arose, as well. They just don't speak like that in Ohio |
07-01-2011, 06:52 AM
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Clincian: EA, Zon, Boomerang, TI. Author "The Art of Solo Bass" | | | | | I actually did not get burned the first time, I caught it in time. But the guy ACTUALLY sent a fraudulent money order from a stolen FEDEX account |
07-01-2011, 06:55 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Atlanta, Ga. | | | Thats a typical scam for sure.... If the recipient doesn't call the item by what it actually is "Advert" then to me, it's a scam....
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07-01-2011, 06:55 AM
| | | | Reeks of a scam. My general rule of thumb is, if they don't mention in their response what it is that I am selling in the ad (i.e. bass, amp, pedal etc), I ignore them. Phrases like "your advert" are big time warnings.
Good Luck!
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07-01-2011, 07:00 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: near Cheongju, South Korea | | He could of responded more personally Hello Mike, or Mike instead of just using Hello (not a dead give away) but what added to it was the grammatical/spelling errors:
"am much interested in buying it. "
"I would like to send the payment via money order.. Cos that is the easier way for me to send the payment to you"
Small things like that make it seem fishy... I'm not saying that I would pick up on it immediately but I would be hesitant.
SCAMS=EVERYWHERE 
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07-01-2011, 11:21 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wichita, KS | | | First sentence pretty much does it. Between "advert" (rather than "post" or similar), "on the web" (rather than "on bassgear" or similar), and "it" (rather than naming the item specifically) it looks fishy enough I probably would not have even responded.
Once he lists the info he needed from you and it included "country" you should never have responded because at that point it's 100% crystal clear that it's a scam.
p.s. I would also recommend editing the OP so it doesn't include your personal info.
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07-01-2011, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Dimin
Name in Full..............
Address............
Zip code......................
Country..................
Home number............
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| I usually ask if they also need my social security and bank account numbers to seal the deal. 
They never seem to get back to me? 
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07-01-2011, 11:56 AM
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Clincian: EA, Zon, Boomerang, TI. Author "The Art of Solo Bass" | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by baalroo First sentence pretty much does it. Between "advert" (rather than "post" or similar), "on the web" (rather than "on bassgear" or similar), and "it" (rather than naming the item specifically) it looks fishy enough I probably would not have even responded.
Once he lists the info he needed from you and it included "country" you should never have responded because at that point it's 100% crystal clear that it's a scam.
p.s. I would also recommend editing the OP so it doesn't include your personal info. | My personal info is readily available on my web site. It is how I get work |
07-01-2011, 12:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Dallas, TX. | | | all the improper english in the messages would have been a dead give away for me.
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07-07-2011, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ivan M US POSTAL money order is the best way to go, when you receive it you head over to your local Post Office and cash it, then and only then do you send the items. | I always thought US Postal Money Orders were as good as cash.
I contacted the Postmaster General's office for more info. They mentioned that there are stolen and counterfeit US Postal Money Orders AND if you attempt to cash one of these, the first thing the Feds do is investigate YOU for trying to pass the bad paper.
You just can't win.
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07-07-2011, 12:27 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | | whats bassgear
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oh noooooo |
07-07-2011, 12:32 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey | | | Ive gotten cashiers checks{never money orders that were fake}. They are legit as can be and all banks will take them. However, when they bounce...its your ass. |
07-07-2011, 12:36 PM
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Endorsing artist:see profile/Current Setup | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CHICAGO,IL. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck norriss whats bassgear
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oh noooooo | BassGear.com Classifieds |
07-07-2011, 12:40 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 3rd stone from the sun | | | The first email reeks of a scam for all the reasons already mentioned. |
07-07-2011, 12:42 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH | | | exactly - just because your bank clears the funds does not mean that the check is in fact a good check. it can take some time for the check to make its' way through the banking system to the bank where the funds are supposed to be. once that happens out comes the deposited funds from your account.
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