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Old 11-17-2008, 10:11 PM
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Who do you think is Zappa's Sucessor?

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I have to say... John Zorn
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Umm...Dweezil?
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:17 PM
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None. There will be other original artists, but they'll be all different. That's the way it should be
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:25 PM
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I guess it is the attitude to do anything and not worry about chart success. Sadly that kind of music making has decreased in this auto-tuned age of top-20 emo and commercial rap.

Otherwise, there are glimpses of that kind of attitude with Steve Vai when he's not showing his guitar chops, Mike Keneally, Adrian Belew, hmm, who did they play with long time ago....
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:29 PM
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Mike Kenealley is an amazing player and a real weirdo. +1
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:32 PM
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Frank Zappa was unique - his combination of talents (instrumentalist, composer, bandleader, humorist) and the breadth and depth of his music set him apart. Not necessarily above, but definitely apart.
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:05 PM
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Tough. Maybe Mike Patton??

I believe Zorn produced Mr. Bungle's 1st album.
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:40 PM
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There is no successor. Zappa was unique.
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No replacement for Frank. I agree with some of the other posts. Totally unique.

While she doesn't have any of the humor, and she doesn't have the sheer wierdness that FZ did, I think that Meshell N'Degiocello will have a long, long, long musical career as a multi-instrumentalist, producer, writer and performer, with many killer albums to come. She might be the closest thing to Frank, in a different sort of way.
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Old 11-18-2008, 04:01 PM
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Wow, absolutely no one comes to mind. I am a fan but really, no one is even in the same ballpark. I can list folks who are mining little pieces of what Frank could do, but nobody's got the big picture.
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Well as Zappa didn't directly follow anyone, I'm sure they wouldn't have to directly follow his music.
Basically who is the current active musician thats closest to Zappa's genius.
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Well as Zappa didn't directly follow anyone, I'm sure they wouldn't have to directly follow his music.
Basically who is the current active musician thats closest to Zappa's genius.
Zappa had tons of influences, Stravinsky/Varèse, lots of blues guitar players, Johnny 'Guitar' Watson.... Various do-wop groups.

As they say, great artists steal. Same happens now with the Zappa-influenced bands and artists.
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I'll bet whoever it is is so under the rock and roll radar you'll likely never hear of them. Perhaps someone who is more in the 'composer' vein. Not all geniuses are showmen.
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I have to say... John Zorn
Funny, the one name that did pop into my head was Eugene Chadbourne. I saw him and Zorn in a duo once. I would agreee in the 'truly does not give a f*** what anyone else thinks' catagory!
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There's tons of innovative stuff going on, and it's easier and easier to find anymore. That being said, I don't think there will ever be someone of similiar circumstance just because things are much different now on the business side. Someone doing such odd stuff and actually being able to make an album (let alone a LOT of albums) was almost unheard of in his time, so he was sort of a lone wierdo in a way. Nowadays just start looking around and you'll find all sorts of crazy, eccentric, intelligent, odd music that's readily available. The environment is so different that it's unlikely anyone can have the same sort of impact simply by being Good+Strange.
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:59 PM
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There's tons of innovative stuff going on, and it's easier and easier to find anymore. That being said, I don't think there will ever be someone of similiar circumstance just because things are much different now on the business side. Someone doing such odd stuff and actually being able to make an album (let alone a LOT of albums) was almost unheard of in his time, so he was sort of a lone wierdo in a way. Nowadays just start looking around and you'll find all sorts of crazy, eccentric, intelligent, odd music that's readily available. The environment is so different that it's unlikely anyone can have the same sort of impact simply by being Good+Strange.
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Zappa had tons of influences, Stravinsky/Varèse, lots of blues guitar players, Johnny 'Guitar' Watson.... Various do-wop groups.

As they say, great artists steal. Same happens now with the Zappa-influenced bands and artists.
Edgar Varese And Stravinsky are Zorn's influences too.
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Ed Sanders of The Fugs.
Yeah, but he's the same generation as Zappa.
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