Who in hear hates keyboard players?!!!!!

de la mocha · #1 03-06-2006, 09:59 AM

At church, the keyboard player keeps butting in on my low end and sometimes, I think it's me playing but when I stop it's really him. Should I get a 5 string to compete or pull him by the collar and talk to him in private? Who do these guys think they are? I'm the bass!!! End of rant....

mark beem · #2 03-06-2006, 10:01 AM

No, I don't hate keyboard players.

Tony G · #3 03-06-2006, 10:01 AM

This happens all the time. Just let him know, gently, that he is stepping on your toes a little by playing to much low end.

Oxblood · #4 03-06-2006, 10:03 AM

WHOOP HIS ASS!!!

skewh · #5 03-06-2006, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xgabriel

This happens all the time. Just let him know, gently, that he is stepping on your toes a little by playing to much low end.

This is what I would do. And if it doesn't work, you can always go with Grey Goose's suggestion, as keyboard players are usually against violence, and will be less likely to fight back.

lonote · #6 03-06-2006, 10:06 AM

+1

Talk to him but don't be obnoxious about it. I doubt he's trying to steal your thunder (pun intended).

Godhead'sLament · #7 03-06-2006, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgabriel

This happens all the time. Just let him know, gently, that he is stepping on your toes a little by playing to much low end.

+1

you can take advantage of the moment too, when he is playing down low you can play up high and get some melodys going (if it fits the song)

Matt Till · #8 03-06-2006, 10:07 AM

Cut off his left hand

mark beem · #9 03-06-2006, 10:10 AM

Wait a minute.... You're in church so you're not supposed to "hate" anyone... The Bible says "If a man sue thee for thy coat, give unto him also thy cloak", so what you need to do is take off your E and A strings and let him play notes in that range as well....

r6mile · #10 03-06-2006, 10:11 AM

That's extreme... but it's a good solution lol

WalterBush · #11 03-06-2006, 10:12 AM

I used to. I've been blessed enough lately to have worked with a string of keyboard players who actually asked me if they were stepping on my toes with their left hand.

I'd try asking nicely first (you are in a church band, after all), explaining that you believe his bass knob is turned up to a point that it's clashing with you, and muddying the low end of the frequency spectrum. Could he perhaps turn it down a little, and let you handle the lows?

Bear in mind, he may not be aware that all that bass is from him. He may be thinking that the boominess is all you, which was the situation with the last keyboardist I barked at for stomping on me.

KayCee · #12 03-06-2006, 10:13 AM

This happens a lot with keyboard players that are used to playing solo gigs. He should be only be playing left hand bass at times when there are set unison lines with the bass.

Experienced keyboard players know how to find their space without crowding the bass or the gtr (BTW, gtr players often have BIG problems with kbd collisions!)

bassthumpa · #13 03-06-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by xgabriel

This happens all the time. Just let him know, gently, that he is stepping on your toes a little by playing to much low end.

+1

Your patience will pay off in the long run.

ge9375 · #14 03-06-2006, 10:16 AM

When there's a bass player, the keyboardist is free to comp better, because he doesn't have to play bass notes. I'm not sure how you'd work that into the conversation.

BurningSkies · #15 03-06-2006, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KayCee

This happens a lot with keyboard players that are used to playing solo gigs. He should be only be playing left hand bass at times when there are set unison lines with the bass.

Experienced keyboard players know how to find their space without crowding the bass or the gtr (BTW, gtr players often have BIG problems with kbd collisions!)

+1

Yup. That's what this is. When you play with a keys player who does a lot of solo practice stuff or gigs alone, they don't understand that they're playing in your neighborhood. I stop the song when this happens in practice and explain the situation in a very succinct manner. It usually only happens maybe once or twice after that. In those cases I stop playing altogether and refuse to play until it stops.

mrpackerguy · #16 03-06-2006, 10:24 AM

Not me. Occasionally the left hand gets in my way, but he's man enough to recognize and decipher my look back at him and lay off. It only happens rarely, though.

So no, I don't hate keyboard players. In fact, I am one.

**MAJOR METAL** · #17 03-06-2006, 10:39 AM

I try not to hate anyone.

MODNY · #18 03-06-2006, 10:46 AM

i used to hate keyboard players because i thought that they were gay, then i seen some really good ones, who were able to use the sounds on their keyboard ALOT, like bringing up pathes here and there and making pre sets on the fly, it was amazing! from then on i gew to respect GOOD keyboard players, who know hoe to use their instruments to their full potential

middlebit · #19 03-06-2006, 11:06 AM

It's time to educate him. When a keyboardist plays in 'your area' it's because he needs to be enlightened on the fundamentals of music.

BassMan257 · #20 03-06-2006, 11:09 AM

I think its spelled here... not hear...
just wanted to clear things up