Why all the guitarist insults?

wallybill · #1 08-31-2008, 12:51 PM

I read these posts and there are a lot of references to "guitards". When I think back about some of the guitarists I've jammed with through the years.... Oh. Yeah.
Never mind.

Jazz Ad · #2 08-31-2008, 01:11 PM

I don't know why and find it very annoying.
Typical clique behaviour I think.

SpankyPants · #3 08-31-2008, 01:15 PM

Yeah. I mean, I've played with some killer guitarists and some bad ones. But I've also played with killer drummers and some bad ones. I've also played with some killer bassists and some bad ones.

I think it's just an attempt to justify the extreme nerdiness that is the knowledge acquired through TB.

RickenBoogie · #4 08-31-2008, 01:19 PM

Because we play the bass, we sometimes get overlooked because of "flashy" and sometimes loud guitarists. It happens to every one. Widdly-woo here, dive bomb there, and next thing you know, they get all the girls. It's some of that, too.

SERPENT865 · #5 08-31-2008, 01:32 PM

What ever JA and SP...............

NKUSigEp · #6 08-31-2008, 01:34 PM

Ehh...I guess that's just the stereotype. I always wonder if there's a talkbass-esque website for guitarists and if they bad-mouth us in the same manner. I never get time to search though since I'm always on here or working. Oh well...I've had more problems with drummers anyways. I'd liken it to the saying women have for men: "all the good ones are either gay or taken".

CapnSev · #7 08-31-2008, 01:37 PM

It's all in good fun but...

If I made a list of all the guitarists that I've ever jammed with, I think I could pick 7 or 8 where I'd say: "Yeah. I'd play with that guy any day."

Darkstrike · #8 08-31-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NKUSigEp

Ehh...I guess that's just the stereotype. I always wonder if there's a talkbass-esque website for guitarists and if they bad-mouth us in the same manner. I never get time to search though since I'm always on here or working. Oh well...I've had more problems with drummers anyways. I'd liken it to the saying women have for men: "all the good ones are either gay or taken".

Yes they do, our one is "Basshole"

Eminor3rd · #9 08-31-2008, 01:46 PM

It's just a joke.

mvw356 · #10 08-31-2008, 01:48 PM

because it's easy to pick on someone who isn't there to defend himself. also, it helps overcome the inferiority complex most bassists here have

bassmonkeee · #11 08-31-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mvw356

because it's easy to pick on someone who isn't there to defend himself. also, it helps overcome the inferiority complex most bassists here have

Or, you know--some of us simply have a sense of humor.

But, since you're all here being so much better than those of us who make a joke every once in a while--Can I borrow one of you to help me turn this lump of coal into a diamond?

wallybill · #12 08-31-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bassmonkeee

Or, you know--some of us simply have a sense of humor.

LOL!!
+1

will33 · #13 08-31-2008, 02:04 PM

Of course it's just a joke, I've played with many really talented guitarists. But there also many, many who have no idea what volume control or good tone is. And at least as many who have no clue how or why any of their equipment works. Having trouble with the PA system? Get the bass player.

Bluesy Soul · #14 08-31-2008, 02:09 PM

Jeez, I sure hope TB doesn't turn into another forum, venue, community or whatever that becomes so hyper-sensitive and so politically-friggin' correct that there is no room for a little locker-room style ribbing. IMHO, taking ourselves that seriously only creates or exacerbates the perceived "problem".

Duane Allman, a great guitard, was also a perceptive and direct-speaking philosopher. I believe he was spot on when he said (paraphrased) it ain't about race, color, religion, gender, gender preference or what instrument you play, because there are really only two kinds of people in the world: regular folks and a**holes.

I've never read a reference here to a "guitard" or a "drumber" that actually struck me as mean-spirited. Besides, it's not like bass players don't get their own, equal measure of grief and jokes. It's all just regular folks engaging in a little good-natured kidding and teasing. OTOH and IME, the politically-correct and uber-sensitive tend to fall into Duane's latter category.

C'mon, folks. Let's lighten up. And wail on, Sky Dog!

Bluesy Soul

Red Planet · #15 08-31-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by will33

Of course it's just a joke, I've played with many really talented guitarists. But there also many, many who have no idea what volume control or good tone is. And at least as many who have no clue how or why any of their equipment works. Having trouble with the PA system? Get the bass player.

Agreed. I can not think of a Guitar Player I have played with through the years that can hanlde much trouble. When it comes to fixing, building, hooking up, trouble shooting, cable making, and making a girl really scream it allways comes down to us Bass Players.

wallybill · #16 08-31-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Planet

Agreed. I can not think of a Guitar Player I have played with through the years that can hanlde much trouble. When it comes to fixing, building, hooking up, trouble shooting, cable making, and making a girl really scream it allways comes down to us Bass Players.

And it's a tough job - but someones got to do it.

RickenBoogie · #17 08-31-2008, 03:18 PM

A guy was on an Amazonian boat cruise, with several native guides. In the distance, he could hear a steady, rythmic drum beat. He asked, "what's that?", and was answered only, "drums stop, BAD". A little farther down the river, the beats were getting louder, and the guide repeated, "drums stop, BAD". The guy was puzzled, and asked, "why", and the guide said, "drums stop, BAD, ..bass solo".

Gearhead17 · #18 08-31-2008, 03:44 PM

The guitarist insults come from topic threads (from guitar forums) on "who can shred faster" or "how fast can you play the Pantera solo". Most of us bass players are about being a team player in the band. While guitarists seem to think the world revolves around them and their solos. Solos are cool, there are many I love to listen to, but without the bass line holding the fort down, that solo sounds like crap.

I am lucky to have guitarists in my band that understand the importance of my bass playing and let me be heard wherever we play. Unfortunately, too many guitarists don't understand how bass players can make songs heavier, groove more, sound meaner, more danceable and so on..... That's where the ignorance originates from for most guitarists - they just don't get it.

system_roxr · #19 08-31-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RickenBoogie

Because we play the bass, we sometimes get overlooked because of "flashy" and sometimes loud guitarists. It happens to every one. Widdly-woo here, dive bomb there, and next thing you know, they get all the girls. It's some of that, too.

Yep, thats just about how it goes!

aspdevboy · #20 08-31-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bassmonkeee

Or, you know--some of us simply have a sense of humor.

But, since you're all here being so much better than those of us who make a joke every once in a while--Can I borrow one of you to help me turn this lump of coal into a diamond?