Why can't somebody market a guitar stand that lasts ?

billbass1 · #1 06-28-2007, 03:36 PM

Not only lasts beyond 5 to 10 years , due to the materials, besides the metal and solid plastics, that eventually become brittle and disintegrate, but also, does not damage guitar and bass finishes.
I must have about 4 guitar stands were all the metal frameing is perfect.
But ,the rubber like material that cradles the instrument and is wrapped around the stand frames,has just wasted away.
Wasted not due to neglect, but from time itself.
And, I am talking about a short time over several years.
I bet a lot of musicians would be willing to spend a few extra dollars for a stand that last a lifetime.
Couldn't some other material be used besides the cheap stuff that is being used now.
How about some kind of soft, tough, elastizied denim ?
Or something else ?
There has to be a better way.............

whitedk57 · #2 06-28-2007, 03:38 PM

Yeah I know, huh?

Beavinator · #3 06-28-2007, 03:40 PM

it's kinda like those new Stride gum commercials, though...

How are the companies every supposed to make any money if you only buy one stand!?!?

Vandelay · #4 06-28-2007, 03:59 PM

I've stopped buying the typical-style guitar stands for that reason, plus the fact that the pieces easily get separated and lost. I like the Ultimate stands a little better. Their "Genesis" ones which mostly suspend the guitar by the headstock are ok. I really like their "Axcel" stands, they easily fold flat, plus they automatically lock at the neck. Unfortunately it seems like they've stopped making them, but there are a few places that still sell them.

Dee_01 · #5 06-28-2007, 04:04 PM

I use Quik-Lok stands and they seem to last forever. I think the foam bits are replaceable anyway.

doctec · #6 06-28-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vandelay

I like the Ultimate stands a little better. Their "Genesis" ones which mostly suspend the guitar by the headstock are ok.

I've been using that one (G-100) for several years and it's stood up well for me. Folds up nice and compact, too.

Dave Muscato · #7 06-28-2007, 04:12 PM

Fender makes one. It looks like a tweed guitar case, but when it's open, it holds 7 guitars or basses. They also make one that looks like a briefcase that holds 3. I've had mine for 7 years and it's in perfect shape - I expect it to last at least 10 more, if not longer. They're pricey, but well-built.

- Dave

imaroxtarrr · #8 06-28-2007, 04:28 PM

These last forever....Its a lot of money initially but you will use it forever, and ever, and ever, and ever after that! Look at the users page!

http://www.ultracase.com/stands.shtml

lpdeluxe · #9 06-28-2007, 04:32 PM

http://www.carvin.com/products/singl...r=GSD3&CID=ACC
Simple, inexpensive, sturdy and inconspicuous. And, they fold flat.

If you like to hang the bass from its headstock, it ain't for you. But after 20+ years of disintegrating rubber, lost supports and rusty chrome, I got tired of the conventional stands.

PocketGroove82 · #10 06-28-2007, 04:43 PM

I love the Hercules Stands, the GS414B is the best E bass stand I've ever used. But I haven't had one long enough to see if the foam wears away.

WarriorJoe7 · #11 06-28-2007, 04:47 PM

Can't you refoam your stands with something else that will last? Anyone have any ideas as for what this material might be?

TrooperFarva · #12 06-28-2007, 05:04 PM

What about the stands that you bolt to the wall, or were you talking about something portable for gigs? If you're just looking for something around the home, the wall mounted stands would be a good choice, because if your wall falls down, chances are your bass isn't your biggest problem.

Beachcoma · #13 06-28-2007, 05:07 PM

Wouldn't Neoprene just be awesome??
My wetsuits last a couple of years, and that's way more abuse any stand should ever see

, and its soft...

Peace

GlennW · #14 06-28-2007, 05:07 PM

They can only market what someone else builds.

rok51 · #15 06-28-2007, 05:16 PM

Okay, I have to weigh in on this one. I agree...most stands are...well, you know...

This is the absolutely, no holds barred, best guitar/bass stand on the market.

http://www.hamiltonstands.com/guitar/kb38.htm

It's been around for years, but they don't really advertise and most of the "box houses" don't carry them. They are reasonably priced, fold compactly and are without a doubt the most stable stand I have ever encountered (that's a lot, folks). As a yuk and for dramatic effect...I ask other guitar players to just try and knock it over...it's insane! Not going anywhere!

I simply cannot say enough good things about this stand. I only have one (had it for over a decade)...and I'm not connected in anyway to Hamilton (sure, I used their stands when I was in band back in the '50s...)...It's my "serious" stand. The others work...but this one I trust-with anything.

Kim

billbass1 · #16 06-28-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rok51

Okay, I have to weigh in on this one. I agree...most stands are...well, you know...

This is the absolutely, no holds barred, best guitar/bass stand on the market.

http://www.hamiltonstands.com/guitar/kb38.htm

Kim

Now ,something like this for a single bass or guitar is what I had in mind. But it still comes back to the ," rubber " , material and how long it will last before it starts to atrophy and turn to garbage.

Those suitcase style stands look nice, no rubber, plastic, urethane stuff there ,but they are large, and I really just would like a single holder.

And yes, it would be great if somebody even had some kind of finish freindly, rubberized replacement tubeing, available for sale.

Thanks for all the input so far guys.
Please keep brainstorming...................

Oh, I should mention that I have seen some photos of wood guitar stands also.
Taylor makes some, but I prefer another alternative.

eedre · #17 06-28-2007, 07:37 PM

Because drunk band members will always trip over them.

kalipigeon · #18 06-29-2007, 03:31 AM

You have to be careful refoaming your stands... most plastics(neoprene), foams, and even some organics will react with (eat) nitro finishes. I'd recommend making a sleeve out of several layers of thick cotton cloth to resurface any missing padding if you have nitro finished instruments. If you've got poly though, I don't know of too much that will hurt them that doesn't originate from a drummer.

Akami · #19 06-29-2007, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by doctec

I've been using that one (G-100) for several years and it's stood up well for me. Folds up nice and compact, too.

Me too; Ultimate Support is one of the best stand makers out there, and great customer service too.

pointbass · #20 06-29-2007, 06:28 AM

I've also been using the Ultimate stands and haven't had any kind of issue with them at all. My oldest one is about 3-4 years now, but still hanging in there great. And I don't treat any of my gear all that carefully (except for my basses

) .... I gig a lot and stuff just gets tossed around ....