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Why is it so hard for some bass players to accept the fact that every bass player does not want to be a clone or the flavor of the month. Some really want to develop their own voice and move in such a direction to do so.

I find it interesting how people feel the need to dis me, talk a bunch of bs and really make a%^&es out of them selves in the process. They don't do their home work, because if they did they would see that I play all kinds of music not just the music they foolishly seem to always focus on.They need to realize and understand that every time they post something negative about me my stock increases and I sell more product.

So if all the haters want to continue to put money in my pocket and make it possible for the curious to seek me and my music out, I would just like to say thank you and a big thanks for helping my marketing department stay strong.


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Isn't there an expression along the lines of..."there's no such thing as bad press?"

I have to agree though JAUQO...when I read a review where the reviewer claims the music is terrible, I will usually go have a listen myself to see if it really is all that bad.

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Isn't there an expression along the lines of..."there's no such thing as bad press?"

I have to agree though JAUQO...when I read a review where the reviewer claims the music is terrible, I will usually go have a listen myself to see if it really is all that bad.


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What a groove!!! I'm only on "hello sunshine"!!
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I thinks it is good to play and listen to a bunch of stuff but its not bad to spend a lot of time on one you like a lot. Like I love rock specially RHCP so i try to learn a bunch of their songs but also learn other rock and some R&B motown and early rock and roll stuff as well.
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What a groove!!! I'm only on "hello sunshine"!!
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This is a great thread. You're so right on everything you've just said. I used to play in a classic rock band. Now i'm in a county/pop band. Next I think I'm gonna go for a metal band, which has always what I wanted to do. Playing all these different styles have really molded the way I play my bass. My fills are also very tastey to me, I love play some of my country becuase it's so simple that I can throw in some crazy fills with ease. Although the singer hates it becuase it blocks her ego..

Well anyway, thanks for posting this thread
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You're very welcome.

I really pride my self on being an extremely versatile bassist and when I'm not playing bass for some one else I'm doing my own thing and I think that that's what being a healthy musician/bassist is all about.
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Musical criticism is an interesting thing to me. And this is coming from a former music reviewer/critic. I can certainly understand personal preference and listening to whatever turns your crank, but I don't quite understand the need to put down whatever doesn't happen to be in your sphere of listening. Chris2112 is perhaps the best caricature of such a binary system of measurement at work, at least here on TB.

To me, if music (like any form of art), is to be judged, it should be based on how well the artist achieved his/her/their goals.
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I've always tried to have my own voice on my original material, and I believe that I've accomplished that. On my on thing I tend to branch out a lot and explore form and function on the electric bass and play things that don't historically belong in the arrangement context or in the role of bass as seen today. I also like to use effects to mimic a keyboard-style canvas but without sounding like a specific polyphonic instrument. I totally accept that bassists, including myself, generally need to persue their own voices to be healthy musicians.

That said, you have to know when to put a lot of it away and just sound like a Top 40 bassist again. We are artists for ourselves, but most of us aren't paid to be artists so much as entertainers. Like Jauqo has said himself, he plays all styles and forms. And I do agree with this thread that a lot of bassists don't differentiate between their "artist" time and their "entertainer" time. In fact I know a lot of bassists who don't pick up their instrument unless they're on payed time, and to me that's sad. I played bass to express myself first and foremost-- making money, impressing girls, gaining popularity-- all came later.
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If I get to be half the bass player you are, I'll be happy. Can you come to Seattle and give me lessons?

I got the MySpace site up right now, and it is blasting in my den. These are some killer jams. But honestly, I skipped past "Is It Because". Not really my thing. The rest of the tracks are HAWT. "Steps to the Sun" is killer.

I totally want a CD of this.

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To me, if music (like any form of art), is to be judged, it should be based on how well the artist achieved his/her/their goals.
For the past eighteen months or so I've noticed myself thinking more along these lines and less along whether I like the style of music.

For me at least it's been a healthy shift in how I listen to and appreciate music.
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I'm egocentric in the fact that with most bassists who have a voice, I don't particularly like listening to them. Is it because they aren't good? Lord, no. It's because as I said I'm egocentric and I like my own voice, simple as that. Just like beer it's an aquired taste and so is everybody else's. Do I think my voice is better? Only for me, not for anyone else, and that's where the egocentricism stops. My voice is just as much an aquired thing as anybody else's, and just because I may not like another voice so much, doesn't mean I don't want that bassist to have one, because I very much do. The beauty is that our voices all sound so different.
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I got the MySpace site up right now, and it is blasting in my den. These are some killer jams. But honestly, I skipped past "Is It Because". Not really my thing. The rest of the tracks are HAWT. "Steps to the Sun" is killer.
Thanks Mike but sorry to break it to you, I'm not on the track "Is It Because".
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Why is it so hard for some bass players to accept the fact that every bass player does not want to be a clone or the flavor of the month. Some really want to develop their own voice and move in such a direction to do so.
Don't sweat it, man. Mind over matter. You don't mind, because they don't matter. They do matter, but you know what I mean.


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I find it interesting how people feel the need to dis me, talk a bunch of bs and really make a%^&es out of them selves in the process. They don't do their home work, because if they did they would see that I play all kinds of music not just the music they foolishly seem to always focus on.They need to realize and understand that every time they post something negative about me my stock increases and I sell more product.
Again, don't sweat it. I'm guessing you would probably reply to this with something along the lines of "I don't sweat it, I'm confident in my music, ability, and direction"... but you have authored a handful of threads that are built around this same subject/underlying subject. That suggests to me that you are letting it get to you. Don't. Simply don't.

And for the sake of full disclosure, I'm not into that style of music. But I can still hear the chops in the tunes. Very cool playing, just not my style of music.
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Thanks Mike but sorry to break it to you, I'm not on the track "Is It Because".
That would explain why it doesn't groove like the others. Seriously, this music is awesome. I'm totally playing this at work on Monday, and it will make awesome background music the next time I have a get together at my joint. Forget that digital music on Comcast!

I can't wait till you make it out here again. I work in downtown Tacoma, on Broadway down by the old Sheraton. It is now called The Murano, the Sheraton is gone.

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