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Old 05-15-2010, 12:25 PM
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Let's try to have a discussion free of trolling, flaming, disrespect, etc.

Do you think it is difficult for women to make a name for themselves in the realm of rock music? Is the music industry sexist? Do women face a double standard? Do you think a woman musician's appearance is noticed more often than her playing? Are women musicians stereotyped as being in it for the attention and not being as good as men? Why are women bassists so much more common than guitarists/drummers? Are women in bands considered a "gimmick" as opposed to serious musicians who made the band through their skills? Are some men threatened by women who are just as good or better at playing an instrument? Will women musicians ever be taken as seriously or respected as much as male musicians?

I'd especially be interested in input from lady musicians themselves. Did you face prejudice in the music industry? What obstacles did you have to overcome? Do you think rock music is considered "unladylike?" What advice do you have for girls who love rock music and want to be involved in it?

One of my pet peeves is when guys say, "I don't like women's voices." Because PJ Harvey and Fiona Apple sound just like Britney Spears. And for that matter, Robert Plant sounds exactly like Trent Reznor.
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Old 05-15-2010, 01:52 PM
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It's talent. If there's talent - then it's appreciated.

What I dislike is a woman there as a draw with no talent and she's just for the sex appeal.

You asked if it's unladylike to be in a band. I think it's just the opposite. A woman's voice in a band actually rounds out the spectral color of a band by being there for the higher parts and when they harmonize, it's very magical to me.

I watched Annie Lennox in a very small, <100-person (SRO) cantina in the Joshua Tree area.

All black leather and lots of zippers and with that almost white hair - she looked so outta place on a C/W bandstand until she started making music - and I didn't know she could blow a harp. .

She had just returned from doing some soundtrack for Stoker's movie "Dracula" and showed up and just wailed the place with her talent. Who knew she could play a harmonica? I didn't.

See? If there's talent - well, I already said that.

Besides the eye-appeal, there's the fact that they are performing and if anyone has troubles with that then too bad.

Speaking of voices though - I'd like to see Rod Stewert and Kim Carnes on the same stage, singing duets. I think in reality they are the same person, since I've never seen them together.
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I think it's ok if women get attention for their looks, at first. They will soon show if they have talent or not.
I love rock anyway, male or female. Some females are more talented than males, but probably not as many.

I wish I started younger. But I think it's hard for any band to make it big anyway. Male or female.

My band is all female for one reason: We think it's safer. Better for our marriages. Too easy to become attracted to the opposite sex while making music together, I would think.

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I do think there are lower standards for women who play music. After a gig, I (a female bass player who plays with 3 guys) will get a compliment about how I play well and how it's cool to see girls playing music which is cool, but I highly doubt I would receive a compliment if I were a dude. I'm competent but I'm no Jaco/Flea/Wooten so if I were a dude I would probably be considered an average bass player.
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