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04-24-2011, 08:52 AM
|  | Bassman7654 | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: North Las Vegas NV | | | Words have meaning.
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Am I the only one around here that notices that there are lots of music related terms being misused on TB? I'm not talking about your basic run-of-the-mill bad grammar and punctuation. But words that have a completely different meaning than the OP is using it for. See if you can spot the error in the following sentences.
Hi there. My new bass (a Fender Jazz) is very hard to play, I called GC and the luthier said he charges $75 for a set up. Should I spend the money? or is this something I can do myself?
Now, this is by no means a big deal, but it's something that bothers me sometimes. I suspect the issue lies with either the over use of Wikipedia. Or just plain old noob ignorance. By now you should have guessed the word that is wrong, but for those who are not sure it's luthier  Definition of LUTHIER: one who makes stringed musical instruments (as violins or guitars) " Merriam-Webster dictionary"
Since the local CG person does not build Fenders (or any other guitars), the proper title for him would should be "Repair Tech", or something along that line.
So,,,,,,,,, Lets play the most misused word game What are some of your favorites? Remember, I'm not talking about grammar or punctuation errors here  Please provide the word and definition
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04-24-2011, 08:56 AM
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Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: New York City | | | Can't think of any offhand, but want to plug in... and mention that I enjoy the occasional use of the word trustrod. |
04-24-2011, 01:56 PM
| | Bassman7654 | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: North Las Vegas NV | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Nerve  Can't think of any offhand, but want to plug in... and mention that I enjoy the occasional use of the word trustrod. |
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04-24-2011, 02:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ireland | | | ..or the bass cleft !
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04-24-2011, 02:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Perth, WA, Australia | | | How about a contradiction-in-terms like "vintage Japanese Fender"?
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04-24-2011, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by phatbass How about a contradiction-in-terms like "vintage Japanese Fender"? | Depending on one's definition of the term *vintage*, might this not necessarily be a contradiction in terms? I am by NO means trying to bust your b**ls- I'm genuinely unsure.
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04-24-2011, 02:38 PM
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04-24-2011, 03:39 PM
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Maker of HPF-Pre upright bass preamp | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Madison WI | | | Words are defined by accepted use. In the double bass world, it's perfectly acceptable to use the term "luthier" for one who repairs basses. Some also make basses, but some don't. |
04-24-2011, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fdeck Words are defined by accepted use. | Yeah, I try to not sweat the small stuff. People talk about "fretboards" on upright basses. Sure, it's wrong, but I know what they mean, and I'm not going to ding them for it. If a misused word interferes with the meaning, with understanding, it's a much bigger problem.
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04-24-2011, 04:11 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | Not even I - a self-professed grammar nazi - have a problem with the use of "Luthier" in the OP.
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04-24-2011, 04:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dallas, Texas | | | oooooh, I love nit-picking the english language! It's an evolving creature that changes all the time, so you have to give people some slack.
"Vintage" by the way, used to refer to a specific year, season or period, like a "vintage 1976 Merlot" but people have used the term so much, that it now has several meanings. People use it in descriptions when selling their old stuff, so it's now a valid search term if you're looking for something from yesteryear. |
04-24-2011, 05:02 PM
| | Bassman7654 | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: North Las Vegas NV | | Quote:
Originally Posted by fdeck Words are defined by accepted use. In the double bass world, it's perfectly acceptable to use the term "luthier" for one who repairs basses. Some also make basses, but some don't. | Really? I did not know that.
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04-24-2011, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim Not even I - a self-professed grammar nazi - have a problem with the use of "Luthier" in the OP. | Neither do I, despite my byline. |
04-24-2011, 05:12 PM
| | Bassman7654 | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: North Las Vegas NV | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilgrim Not even I - a self-professed grammar nazi - have a problem with the use of "Luthier" in the OP. | It's not that big a problem. It's just when I hear "lutiier", I automagicaly think guitar builder. Perfect example would be Sadowsky. He builds em and fixes em. So in his case luthier would be ok. I'm sorry, but the guy standing behind the counter at your local mega store is NOT a luthier.
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04-24-2011, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Nerve Can't think of any offhand, but want to plug in... and mention that I enjoy the occasional use of the word trustrod. | "Trustrod"... Why does a whole 'nuther subject leap to mind...?
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04-24-2011, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fdeck In the double bass world, it's perfectly acceptable to use the term "luthier" for one who repairs basses. Some also make basses, but some don't. | Sure, but repairing a DB can be just about as complex and demanding as building one, and requires many of the same skills... |
04-24-2011, 07:26 PM
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04-24-2011, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OmnitzGarima Yeah, I try to not sweat the small stuff. People talk about "fretboards" on upright basses. Sure, it's wrong, but I know what they mean, and I'm not going to ding them for it. If a misused word interferes with the meaning, with understanding, it's a much bigger problem. | One rehearsal I was playing my fretless electric bass and we were discussing the build of it and while discussing the neck I copped flak from my bandmates for calling the fretboard a fingerboard...
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04-24-2011, 10:09 PM
| | Bassman7654 | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: North Las Vegas NV | | How about"Mint" Mint means it was just made. never been played. Yet I always see a for sale add that state the bass is in mint condition with just minimal player wear and a ding here or there
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04-24-2011, 10:11 PM
| | Bassman7654 | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: North Las Vegas NV | | Oh and it comes with a beat up case or gig bag that has no zippers
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