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08-30-2010, 12:01 PM
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When you are in the exact moment of playing, are you subconsciously aware of every thing you're playing before and during your playing?
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08-30-2010, 12:07 PM
| | | | i don't know. but i do know overthinking hurts my playing.
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08-30-2010, 12:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Here we are... | | | I find that on my best nights,I'm just playing.
Not so good nights I'm worrying about my tone or technique ,and making sure I dont do anything to aggravate my tendonitis
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08-30-2010, 12:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Calgary, AB | | | 'Before' might be problematic. 'During', however, I think one would have to maintain that modicum of awareness, not only of the individual performance but the immediate aural surroundings as well in order to effectively perform music to one's standards, at least in the subconscious sense.
Consciously, of course is another matter - subjective reliance on muscle memory and ostinato pattern replications might allow the higher intellect to wander in its immediate focus.
YMMV
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08-30-2010, 12:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Holtsville, NY | | | I played a gig in NYC this winter with a 103 degree fever. I can't remember the setlist but everyone told me I was pale, looked like I was gonna hit the floor anytime, and on point the whole time. Chyeah! |
08-30-2010, 12:21 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey | | | My goal is to not be. However, when I learn something new, there is a 'break-in' period where I have to think about it before it becomes comfortable. I have always mantained that the goal of learning theory is to learn it so well that you don't think about it. |
08-30-2010, 12:30 PM
|  | Holding the Line, Low, Loud & Proud | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leander, TX (outside Austin) | | | I'm usually in the area in between, aware enough to keep my place and function, unconscious enough to be creative and responsive. |
08-30-2010, 12:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Duke City | | As far as I can tell my conscious mind is blank, manifested as a stupid grin on my face. Not sure about the sub-conscious, as its', well, ... sub-conscious.  |
08-30-2010, 12:32 PM
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Builder: Rickett Customs | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern Maryland | | | I do not think about or concentrate too hard on playing, when I'm playing......I do maintain about 85- 90% awareness of my surroundings when I'm playing.... anyone who could state 100% awareness while playing, is sorely mistaken. There's also 2 aspects, the awareness of other band members (cues, on the fly changes, etc) and audience surroundings. |
08-30-2010, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NickyBass I have always mantained that the goal of learning theory is to learn it so well that you don't think about it. |
so that would be subconscious and my goal as well. The OP is kinda contradictory... Subconscious becomes Conscious with awareness.
subconscious - A mental process which occurs without awareness, or conscious perception on the part of the individual. |
08-30-2010, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by James Hart The OP is kinda contradictory... Subconscious becomes Conscious with awareness.
subconscious - A mental process which occurs without awareness, or conscious perception on the part of the individual. |
No I'm not.
Before something is conscious it's subconscious. And sometimes they actually exist side by side.
I know exactly what subconscious means. |
08-30-2010, 12:43 PM
|  | Yeah, I've got the moves like Jagger. | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: G.R. MI | | | The best performances of mine are just playing. I'm usually thinking about my financial situation and how many notes I put out into the space......
Some really cool freaky stuff happened yesterday in church. We were playing a simple (and boring) I IV V progression that somehow turned itself into a funktastic reggae thing. No idea how we ended up there, but it was pretty sweet!
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08-30-2010, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X Before something is conscious it's subconscious. And sometimes they actually exist side by side. | Yes and no... the threshold BETWEEN subconscious and conscious IS awareness. |
08-30-2010, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X When you are in the exact moment of playing, are you subconsciously aware of every thing you're playing before and during your playing? | Syntax error: One cannot be aware of what one played before "in the exact moment of playing", one can only be aware of what one played before prior to the exact moment of playing. Otherwise it's not before. |
08-30-2010, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover Syntax error: One cannot be aware of what one played before "in the exact moment of playing", one can only be aware of what one played before prior to the exact moment of playing. Otherwise it's not before. |
When it comes to the mind and it's capabilities anything is possible. |
08-30-2010, 01:25 PM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | I try to be conscious of what's coming after. It seems more important to me. |
08-30-2010, 01:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Olympia WA | | I am not sure I have ever fully reached consciousness..
Most of the time I am thinking....I cant see a damn thing without my glasses..... |
08-30-2010, 01:30 PM
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08-30-2010, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by James Hart Yes and no... the threshold BETWEEN subconscious and conscious IS awareness. | No ones impressed. We're talking about bass here. If you wanna flex your knowledge of the way the human mind works... go find an appropriate outlet.
But to answer OPs question, I find myself playing really well during shows. I'm the lead singer too so my focus is spent there, but my bass playing never seems to suffer. Kinda weird how "at home" I am playing bass. |
08-30-2010, 01:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2009 Location: Inland Empire/ So Cal | | | subconsciously aware???
no man i try to avoid doing acid on stage.
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